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What rights does she have?

My father died 2 years ago, leaving a will. The house, where he lived with a lady he was not married to, was his. He left the house to me and my sister, who are both executors, but he included a clause in his will saying the lady may live there until she dies and that we cannot sell the house without her consent. The will also stated that she is responsible for maintenance and upkeep.
We have discovered that the house is not registered with the LR. We plan to do this, registering it in our joint names (my sister and myself). I believe we will have to declare that she has this right to residence.
Worryingly a friend has suggested to me that if said lady ever has to go into a care home (she is nearly 80) they will expect us to sell the house and pay her care costs from the proceeds. Since my father died she has sold her own house and so is not exactly short of savings.
I would welcome any insights.
Neither I nor my sister now have much contact with the lady in question and prefer to keep contact with her to a minimum.

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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    edited 20 May 2016 at 8:44AM
    She will have no beneficial interest in the value of the property only the rights granted by the will.

    Life interest(interest in possession trust) can make IHT and CGT different to the standard situation and needs proper research advice.

    It is in your interest to monitor the property and understand the implications of this trust.
  • Yorkshireman99
    Yorkshireman99 Posts: 5,470 Forumite
    edited 20 May 2016 at 7:24AM
    ouraggie wrote: »
    My father died 2 years ago, leaving a will. The house, where he lived with a lady he was not married to, was his. He left the house to me and my sister, who are both executors, but he included a clause in his will saying the lady may live there until she dies and that we cannot sell the house without her consent. The will also stated that she is responsible for maintenance and upkeep.
    We have discovered that the house is not registered with the LR. We plan to do this, registering it in our joint names (my sister and myself). I believe we will have to declare that she has this right to residence.
    Worryingly a friend has suggested to me that if said lady ever has to go into a care home (she is nearly 80) they will expect us to sell the house and pay her care costs from the proceeds. Since my father died she has sold her own house and so is not exactly short of savings.
    I would welcome any insights.
    Neither I nor my sister now have much contact with the lady in question and prefer to keep contact with her to a minimum.
    She has no rights except to live there. You need to check that the house is insured and that she keeps it in good repair. She is responsible for the council tax. It would be wise to inspect the house at least once a quarter to see that any repairs are being done.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,574 Forumite
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    ouraggie wrote: »
    He left the house to me and my sister

    Worryingly a friend has suggested to me that if said lady ever has to go into a care home (she is nearly 80) they will expect us to sell the house and pay her care costs from the proceeds.

    You need to point out to your friend that the house belongs to you and your sister and not your father's friend.

    If she ever needs to go into residential care, her assets will be looked at, not yours.
  • -taff
    -taff Posts: 15,580 Forumite
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    ouraggie wrote: »
    Worryingly a friend has suggested to me that if said lady ever has to go into a care home (she is nearly 80) they will expect us to sell the house and pay her care costs from the proceeds.

    Your friend is wrong.
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  • Without wishing to hijack the Op's thread what would happen if the lady friend had an interest in the property?

    In our case the teems are the same except if the property was sold then she would get 15%.
  • Linton
    Linton Posts: 18,529 Forumite
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    Without wishing to hijack the Op's thread what would happen if the lady friend had an interest in the property?

    In our case the teems are the same except if the property was sold then she would get 15%.

    The council cant force the owners of the 85% to sell. The 15% on its own isnt worth very much - who apart from the other owners would want to buy it? The council could put a charge on the property so that their money is repaid from the 15% when the house is next sold.
  • meritaten
    meritaten Posts: 24,158 Forumite
    edited 22 May 2016 at 7:57PM
    Your friend is wrong - the house is NOT one of her assets. She cannot sell it or let it or make money from it.
    She has the right to live there and to not have it sold from under her.

    Have you spoken to the lady? Does she actually want to live there? She may be perfectly amenable to moving out and you selling the house. However, she may want to end her days there.
    and if she is liable for all the running costs - she is actually saving you a great deal of money on keeping an empty house!
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