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    • MSE Jenny
    • By MSE Jenny 4th Sep 07, 10:45 AM
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    MMD: Should Mrs Robinson leave all her cash to Simon or Garfunkel?
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    • 4th Sep 07, 10:45 AM
    MMD: Should Mrs Robinson leave all her cash to Simon or Garfunkel? 4th Sep 07 at 10:45 AM
    Here's this week's hypothetical situation for you to cogitate on:

    Should Mrs Robinson leave all her cash to Simon?

    Mrs. Robinson is getting on in life and is drafting her will. She’s well off although not superrich. Her younger son Garfunkel has been very successful in his own right, though he’s quite avaricious and always wanted more. Her older son, Simon, has always struggled a bit with cash and relied on the family money. She’s debating should she simply split the money evenly or leave the lion’s share to Simon.

    Should Mrs Robinson leave all her cash to Simon or Garfunkel?

    Should Mrs Robinson leave all her cash to Simon?

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  • bendabomb
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    • 4th Sep 07, 9:01 PM
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    She should share it equally.
    • Tustastic
    • By Tustastic 4th Sep 07, 9:23 PM
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    • 4th Sep 07, 9:23 PM
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    In her position I would leave them half each. They are both her sons after all.
    She might want to leave one of them a separate specific sum of money if he has done most to help her practically and emotionally in her last years.
    Example from my own life; one of my parents split their will unequally between us three siblings, disadvantaging the one who lived furthest away (another continent) and who couldn't visit, as well as having chronic ill health and consequent poverty. I thought this was so wrong that I pooled my money with this sibling after that parent's death and we split half each of that. The children of my impoverished sibling used to love their grandparent; they spit on the ground at their memory now.
    Example from a friend's life; he has always tried so hard to make his parents love him by doing well in his education and career, but they've always favoured his er, not very hard working sibling a hundred times more in terms of affection and LOTS of financial gifts to this day.
    She should be fair to both her children.
    • Middlestitch
    • By Middlestitch 4th Sep 07, 9:47 PM
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    • 4th Sep 07, 9:47 PM
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    • 4th Sep 07, 9:47 PM
    Half each!
    • 123xyz
    • By 123xyz 4th Sep 07, 9:50 PM
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    I agree that she should split her estate equally. It doesn't really matter what her sons' personalities are, they are nonetheless her sons.

    I have seen family problems where a deceased relative has left their estate disproportionately, and it only leads to permanent rifts among the surviving relatives and possibly huge legal costs in contesting the Will.
    Just off the border of your waking mind, there lies another time ....
    • bagby
    • By bagby 4th Sep 07, 9:51 PM
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    Really it should be shared equally but I would like to think that if it were my own two children if there was one who was really successful and the other struggling then the more successful one would 'maybe' donate some of their money to the one struggling out of love for their sibling but I am not too sure that this would ever be the case. But to avoid any ill-feeling then it should be shared equally and be left to their own conscience.
    • JDAdams
    • By JDAdams 4th Sep 07, 9:58 PM
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    • 4th Sep 07, 9:58 PM
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    • 4th Sep 07, 9:58 PM
    Am I the only one who'd pick neither option given and leave the majority to Garfunkel? Clearly if he's succeeded in his own right he deserves the money more - I strongly feel that what I've worked hard for should go to someone deserving who is likely to do something useful with it rather than squander it.
    • chalky 75
    • By chalky 75 4th Sep 07, 10:12 PM
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    deffo equally--
  • OddjobKIA
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    • 4th Sep 07, 10:18 PM
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    • 4th Sep 07, 10:18 PM
    stuff the kids send it to battersea dogs home
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    • sandieb
    • By sandieb 5th Sep 07, 7:21 AM
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    Equally - no second thought about it.
    • Agutka
    • By Agutka 5th Sep 07, 8:17 AM
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    Equally, if only to stop a family feud!
    Imagine - would the two brothers speak again if she favoured one over the other?
    • heleen
    • By heleen 5th Sep 07, 8:43 AM
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    Equally.

    Although part of me thinks Garfunkel should get more since Simon has been relying on family money for so long, one could argue that he's already used up part of his inheritance!
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    • Rhino666
    • By Rhino666 5th Sep 07, 9:30 AM
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    Unfortunately the only trouble free will is equality for siblings, whatever the personal circumstances. Seems a shame that money is a stronger driving force than emotions these days.

    I had heard that if a sibling is treated unequally in his parents will he will automatically be awarded an equal share if the will is contested - perhaps someone can confirm this.
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    • arealhighlander
    • By arealhighlander 5th Sep 07, 9:58 AM
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    Give it to neither - spend it all yourself before you snuff it! Take up one of those "buy your house before you die" schemes and spend all that as well.

    YOU have spent your life earning the money, who should some relatives get it?? The same as I disagree with people who complain that they have to use their savings to pay for their care in their old age "but then I wont have anything to pass on to my Grandchildren".

    Aww, tough.
    • haveiwon
    • By haveiwon 5th Sep 07, 10:01 AM
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    Avoid family feuds - do the only fair thing - spend it all before you die!
  • rc3675
    If it was a gift, reward or assistance whilst alive then I'd happily consider differing amounts as part of the reason could then be to teach them something, however when it's all you wordly goods, it's not to cover a need, rather it's the final show of love you can give to your children, and hence it should be an even split.
  • Nicki24
    The money should be split equally between both sons........however I also agree with one of the posts above in that Garfunkel has done well for himself and never asked for anything......where as Simon for whatever reason still relys on his mother to bail him out so he has already spent half of his inheritance. He needs to grow up sort himself out and also needs to realise that his mother wont always be around, nor will her money.

    Ultimately I have to agree with another one of the posts above and say the best decision has to be that the mother spends the money now and enjoys it for herself whilst she is alive. We work hard all our lives.......why not enjoy the fruits of your labour whilst we are alive. Our children shouldnt rely on money being passed down to them.....if it comes then thats great but it shouldnt be expected. We all have to take responsibility for ourselves and make our own way in life. Personally I have told my parents to enjoy their money......retire, go on holidays, eat, drink and be merry, your a long time dead and scrimping and saving whilst you are alive only to leave it all to your kids when you are dead seems such a waste.....if there is any money left over after the mother has partied hard then thats a bonus for the kids. Personally I would take greater pleasure out of knowing my parents had the time of their lives than to find I had a big cheque waiting for me after they have passed away.

    Im deviating from the subject at hand though......in all fairness should there be money left it should be split equally.
  • anney
    Equal split, I would also go further & have a disussion with both to tell them of the decision & make it clear that any further borrowings before they inherit would be counted as an advance on their inheritance, thus lowering their final sum.
    • dannahaz
    • By dannahaz 5th Sep 07, 11:24 AM
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    Spend as much as possibl e enjoying herself, then leave whatever is left to the two equally. Why should one benefit more than the other?
  • esthomizzy
    It depends why Simon is bad with money, if for example he's an alcoholic or has a drug problem it would be stupid to give him more money so he can kill himself (I'm not saying that's the case, it's just there could be more information that we don't have). I'd say either split equally or spend a load and then the rest equally. If there is any sensible reason not to give any to Simon then I'd explain the situation to both of them and explain that neither of them was getting the money. If it's not cash tied up in a house, I'd probably hand a load of it over before I got too old as well so the 7 year gift thing would hopefully have time to apply.

    Although Simon might squander the money, if she loves both of them she should treat them equally regardless of what they might subsequently do with the money. It's possible that Simon has a very worthy but low paying job anyway and that she hasn't resented bailing him out from time to time as she has been able to afford it.
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