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New user. Query on Harrington Brooks

jobobg
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Hello all.
I have a query on a Harrington Brooks DMP that I've been in for the last 6 months.
I set it up through their online portal 'idebtplan' which supposedly allows you online account management, with the option to track debts and add any additional creditors online if and when they pop up. So far so good for someone who works in an open-plan office and doesn't have a whole lot of privacy to take calls about their debt problem.
Anyway, I could never get the account managers to just deal with me email as I requested. They kept phoning 'just for a chat' and I kept saying 'just put what you need to know in an email'. But I thought it was an annoyance more than anything - intrusive customer services really. As long as creditors were getting paid I could live with it.
Anyhow, then I asked them (via email) to send me details of where I could forward creditor letters, as I was still getting them and they never replied. Just a form email saying 'someone will reply in 2 working days IF WE FEEL IT NECESSARY' (my caps) and when I eventually got through to a person (by emailing HB direct, rather than the IDP address) I was told I had to contact my creditors directly and tell them to contact HB. Which defeats the point of a DMP, rather.
To add to this, I've been told three times that I've been set up for access to online account management, received a supposedly automated email thanking me for my request and saying that it can't be set up 'at this time' but will be activated in the next few days' and then heard nothing more. When I ask them about this they tell me it must have gone to my spam folder. (it hasn't, I'm not an idiot) and then I mysteriously get the same email again.
I asked them for confirmation that my creditors are, in fact, getting paid by them since there's been no decrease in the letters and phone calls from them since the DMP started and I've had no statement of account, although after the next direct debit I did get a text message saying 'we've received your DD and paid your creditors' which is both meaningless in itself, and suspicious that I never got that before.
So, I cancelled the DD and sent them an email to say that I want to see proof that all the money I sent them (less agreed fees) was paid to my creditors each month, or I want it back. That was three weeks ago and they've not sent anything. They've phoned of course, but I want it all in writing (or email).
Any tips?
Thanks
I have a query on a Harrington Brooks DMP that I've been in for the last 6 months.
I set it up through their online portal 'idebtplan' which supposedly allows you online account management, with the option to track debts and add any additional creditors online if and when they pop up. So far so good for someone who works in an open-plan office and doesn't have a whole lot of privacy to take calls about their debt problem.
Anyway, I could never get the account managers to just deal with me email as I requested. They kept phoning 'just for a chat' and I kept saying 'just put what you need to know in an email'. But I thought it was an annoyance more than anything - intrusive customer services really. As long as creditors were getting paid I could live with it.
Anyhow, then I asked them (via email) to send me details of where I could forward creditor letters, as I was still getting them and they never replied. Just a form email saying 'someone will reply in 2 working days IF WE FEEL IT NECESSARY' (my caps) and when I eventually got through to a person (by emailing HB direct, rather than the IDP address) I was told I had to contact my creditors directly and tell them to contact HB. Which defeats the point of a DMP, rather.
To add to this, I've been told three times that I've been set up for access to online account management, received a supposedly automated email thanking me for my request and saying that it can't be set up 'at this time' but will be activated in the next few days' and then heard nothing more. When I ask them about this they tell me it must have gone to my spam folder. (it hasn't, I'm not an idiot) and then I mysteriously get the same email again.
I asked them for confirmation that my creditors are, in fact, getting paid by them since there's been no decrease in the letters and phone calls from them since the DMP started and I've had no statement of account, although after the next direct debit I did get a text message saying 'we've received your DD and paid your creditors' which is both meaningless in itself, and suspicious that I never got that before.
So, I cancelled the DD and sent them an email to say that I want to see proof that all the money I sent them (less agreed fees) was paid to my creditors each month, or I want it back. That was three weeks ago and they've not sent anything. They've phoned of course, but I want it all in writing (or email).
Any tips?
Thanks
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Use a free debt charity such as Stepchange. They will do your DMP for free and know what they are doing.
You need to complain to HB in writing, signed for. Phoning and email not really much use here. Hard to ignore a written complaint.:beer:0 -
Send it here:
http://www.harringtonbrooks.co.uk/complaints
Let them know that if they fob you off or continue to ignore you then you will be referring them to the FOS.:beer:0 -
happy_bunny wrote: »Use a free debt charity such as Stepchange. They will do your DMP for free and know what they are doing.
You need to complain to HB in writing, signed for. Phoning and email not really much use here. Hard to ignore a written complaint.
Seconded on StepChange. You can access their website at any time and see a statement of your account and the current estimated amount remaining. You also do not pay them a fee for this service. Phone lines are also open until 8pm so you can speak to them after work if you wish.0 -
My mother is with Harrington Brooks, and I've dealt with them via the phone, and based on every phone call I had they just come across as condescending and rude and rarely if ever respond to requests via the phone.
Like happy_bunny said, send it recorded delivery to ensure they receive it, in case they dispute it.When someone calls you, you don't need to confirm a damn thing. The person who called you however, could be anyone.0 -
Thanks all. I've put everything I've already said via email into a letter and I'm sending it off (recorded) today. It always strikes me as hilarious that they insist on this, it's much easier to prove delivery of an email than of a letter.
As an additional bit of info, I did a review of them on one of those online review sites, where there seemed to be a suspiciously high number of positive reviews (and I'd seen a few mentions on other forums suggesting that maybe their staff were kept busy posting them). Well, it seems that their staff ARE kept busy going through those forums as within 24 hours the review site contacted me to say that HB had been in touch with them asking them to take my review down unless I could prove I was a genuine customer with a real complaint!
I told them my customer number and suggested they refer it to their complaints team, and that I'd add the fact that they tried to remove negative feedback from independent review sites to the complaint I'd submit to the FSO.
God, they really are a shower aren't they?0 -
Thanks all. I've put everything I've already said via email into a letter and I'm sending it off (recorded) today. It always strikes me as hilarious that they insist on this, it's much easier to prove delivery of an email than of a letter.
As an additional bit of info, I did a review of them on one of those online review sites, where there seemed to be a suspiciously high number of positive reviews (and I'd seen a few mentions on other forums suggesting that maybe their staff were kept busy posting them). Well, it seems that their staff ARE kept busy going through those forums as within 24 hours the review site contacted me to say that HB had been in touch with them asking them to take my review down unless I could prove I was a genuine customer with a real complaint!
I told them my customer number and suggested they refer it to their complaints team, and that I'd add the fact that they tried to remove negative feedback from independent review sites to the complaint I'd submit to the FSO.
God, they really are a shower aren't they?
It fills me with fear that they are allowed to behave like that, people with these sort of debt problems are already in a difficult place and I think being treated like this could push them over the edge.
Well doing for getting out of it and moving forward. Thanks for highlighting this as a problem with reviews. I don't know what/who could do anything about this but I'll ask around on the other threads .
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Well, I'm going to take my complaint direct to the FSO, rather than waiting for it to go through their complaints process on the grounds that with this behaviour it doesn't give me any confidence that I'll be treated in a fair and impartial way by their in-house team. If they can't deal with criticsim in public I have no faith whatsoever that they'll handle it correctly in private.0
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Well, I'm going to take my complaint direct to the FSO, rather than waiting for it to go through their complaints process on the grounds that with this behaviour it doesn't give me any confidence that I'll be treated in a fair and impartial way by their in-house team. If they can't deal with criticsim in public I have no faith whatsoever that they'll handle it correctly in private.
You can't complain to the FOS directly, you have to give the company chance by following their complaints procedure. if you do, the FOS will just tell you to complain to the company.
They have 8 weeks to give you their final response. So you can take to FOS as soon as you have their final response (if you don't like it) or after 8 weeks.:beer:0 -
Thanks all. I've put everything I've already said via email into a letter and I'm sending it off (recorded) today. It always strikes me as hilarious that they insist on this, it's much easier to prove delivery of an email than of a letter.
Just to correct you on this point. The RFC for SMTP (email) does not provide any method to prove delivery or receipt of emails. I can (quite easily) spoof an email to come from any address, and a printed copy can be easily faked. You should not rely on email if it comes to court.
However, some software does give extra functionality that can prove delivery - however that is usually at a cost.0 -
happy_bunny wrote: »You can't complain to the FOS directly, you have to give the company chance by following their complaints procedure. if you do, the FOS will just tell you to complain to the company.
They have 8 weeks to give you their final response. So you can take to FOS as soon as you have their final response (if you don't like it) or after 8 weeks.
You can if you ring the FOS, tell them about the issues your having, and they will write to the company concerned telling them they have a complaint to deal with, gives it a bit more clout, you still have the option of going back to the FOS after 8 weeks if your still unhappy.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter0
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