moving from jsa to esa

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nutty1
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edited 21 March 2013 at 11:36PM in Benefits & tax credits
hi, i've been having problems with my back for a while, but still been looking for a job, but now its very bad so doctor gave me a sick note for 2 months, until i have an appointment with a specialist, i wondered is it easy to swap from jsa to esa, and back again if i don't get another sick note after the 2 months

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  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
    edited 22 March 2013 at 9:11PM
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    Swapping to ESA is easy, you close your JSA claim from a certain date, and you claim ESA from the same date. You may have to chase JSA to actually close the claim.
    You should ask ESA when they have entered your sick note expiry date untill.....This is expiry date 'A'
    You will get ESA paid up to this date and no further without a new sicknote.

    You should also know what date your sicknote ACTUALLY expires (read the sicknote) expiry date 'B'

    See your doctor on the day after expiry 'B' and get a new one. If you get one you can stay on ESA. If you don't get one then claim JSA to start from day after date 'A' and then close ESA from day after date 'A'.
  • nutty1
    nutty1 Posts: 2,204 Forumite
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    think i might of made a mistake by swapping from jsa to esa, the sick note is only for 2 months, my back could be ok by then, then i will have to go back to jsa, i have looked at the questionaire they will send and i don't think i will get enough points on it, even though my back is painful, i can still walk and bend, if i fail the questionaire and still have the sick note what will happen then, it just bringing me lots of stress, i think now all the rent and council tax is going to be messed up and i could end up with delays in getting paid
  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
    edited 23 March 2013 at 2:11PM
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    The questionaire is only for the assessment which comes around week 13 (3 months). ESA is also for temporarily sick people like you. You will be paid on ESA with your sicknote for 2 months. You won't have an assessment because you will likely close your claim before it happens.

    Even though ESA is designed for people like you the government will use you as a successful statistic, they will say that xxxxx number of people were helped back into work from ESA, when a lot of those people were always going to be on ESA for a few weeks only anyway.

    The people who fail the assessment and who do not appeal will also be included in that statistic.
  • nutty1
    nutty1 Posts: 2,204 Forumite
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    epitome wrote: »
    The questionaire is only for the assessment which comes around week 13 (3 months). ESA is also for temporarily sick people like you. You will be paid on ESA with your sicknote for 2 months. You won't have an assessment because you will likely close your claim before it happens.

    Even though ESA is designed for people like you the government will use you as a successful statistic, they will say that xxxxx number of people were helped back into work from ESA, when a lot of those people were always going to be on ESA for a few weeks only anyway.

    The people who fail the assessment and who do not appeal will also be included in that statistic.
    will it be a simple change between the two
  • epitome
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    Yes, as long as you are aware of expiry dates A & B, you will not get paid past expiry date A, and you have to phone ESA to find what that date is. You can close your claim and immediately claim JSA. Don't put yourself in the position where you have to backdate your JSA claim.
  • nutty1
    nutty1 Posts: 2,204 Forumite
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    epitome wrote: »
    The questionaire is only for the assessment which comes around week 13 (3 months). ESA is also for temporarily sick people like you. You will be paid on ESA with your sicknote for 2 months. You won't have an assessment because you will likely close your claim before it happens.

    Even though ESA is designed for people like you the government will use you as a successful statistic, they will say that xxxxx number of people were helped back into work from ESA, when a lot of those people were always going to be on ESA for a few weeks only anyway.

    The people who fail the assessment and who do not appeal will also be included in that statistic.
    i have been sent the questionaire already,been only 3 weeks not 13
  • helloey
    helloey Posts: 56 Forumite
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    hello,

    just fill it out to the best of your ability, don't try to exaggerate your back problems, but if you feel it applies to you, make sure to check "it varies" and supply relevant information (as in; if you can do it, but experience a lot of pain in doing so, do not check "yes" and go to the next question, check "it varies" and then say that you can do the task but will experience and list (your) symptoms when doing the task.

    just be honest.

    it's just an initial part of the process of declaring that you are applying for benefit being not capable of work at the moment, everyone has to do it.

    regards,
  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
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    kathrynt wrote: »
    i have been sent the questionaire already,been only 3 weeks not 13

    You need to complete (and return recorded delivery) the questionaire to remain elligible for ESA, regardless of whether you think you will only be on ESA short term.
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