ESA. Who has to attend face to face assessment?

sparkycat2 · 30 September 2012 at 12:57PM

Does ATOS generaly abided by the following. I realize it is not set in stone but I know someone whose disability/illness would meet criteria in 1 when they are not well, and who has conditions listed on 2 and 3. Will they not be invited to attend a face to face assessment or is it just pot luck with ESA.

There specialist has reassured them they have nothing to worry about because they are not capable of working and if they have any trouble with the DWP they should let them know.

The following is from thefullfacts website.

In 2005 the Welfare Reform Bill, which introduced the Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), had not yet been enacted hence the reference to the Disability Living Allowance (DLA).

For the purposes of administrative scrutiny of cases to determine suitability for inclusion in the DLA in Medical Examination Centre project, 5 categories of case have been devised:

1. Unsuitable for calling to a Medical Examination Centre.
2. Reference to Medical Advisor required for advice.
3. Tentatively invite to Medical Examination Centre.
4. Invite to Medical Examination Centre.
5. Any other Diagnosis.

For each category a list is attached.

1. Unsuitable for calling to a Medical Examination Centre.

Age >75 years
Age <12 years
Both Blind and Deaf
Registered Blind (needs to be seen in own environment)
Cases accepted under the Special Rules defining Terminal illness.
Alzheimers
Amputation of both legs
Asperger's
Autistic Spectrum Disorder / Autism
Cerebral Palsy
Dementia
Hemiplegia
Huntingdon's Chorea
Korsakoffs Psychosis
Macmillan Nurse attending.
Motor Neurone Disease
On oxygen
Paraplegia
Quadraplegia
Renal Dialysis
Severe Mental Impairment
Severe Learning Difficulty
!!!!!! Diplegia
Tetraplegia
Total Parenteral Nutrition
Unstable Angina
Wernicke's Encephalopathy

2. Reference to Medical Advisor required for advice.

AIDS
Astrocytoma
Bone Marrow Transplant
Brittle Bone Disease
Cancer
Cystic Fibrosis
Dermatomyositis
Glioma
Guillane-Barre Syndrome
Hodgkin's Lymphoma
Leukaemia
Liver Failure
Mental Retardation
Mental Subnormality
Multiple Sclerosis
Muscular Dystrophy
Non Hodgkin's Lmphoma
On Morphine / MST
Osteogenesis Imperfecta
Parkinson's Disease
Poliomyelitis
Polymyasitis
Registered partially sighted
Respiratory Failure
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Schizoaffective Disorder
Schizophrenia
SLE
Spinal Injury
Systemic Lupus Erythematosis
Scleroderma
Severe Depression
Thallassaemia

3. Tentatively invite to Medical Examination Centre.

Agoraphobia (offer taxi)
Anorexia Nervosa
Ataxia
Bipolar Affective Disorder / Bipolar Disease Manic Depression
Burns
Cardiomyopathy
Cerebrovascular Accident / CVA
Cerebrovascular Disease
CFS
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Crohn's Disease
Diabetic Neuropathy
Eating Disorder
Fibromyalgia
Haemopphilia
Heart Transplant
Hemiparesis
Learning Difficulties
Leg Ulcers
Myalgic Encephalomyelitis / ME
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Peripheral Neuropathy
Phobic Anxiety
Sickle Cell Anaemia
Social Phobia
Spina Bifida
Stroke
Subarachnoid Haemorrage / SAH
Ulcerative Colitis
Varicose Ulcers

4. Invite to Medical Examination Centre.

Alcohol Dependence
Anaemia
Angina
Ankylosing Spondylitis
Anxiety
Arrythmia
Asthma
Atrial Fibrillation
Back Pain
Bronchiectasis
Bulimia Nervosa
Cardiac Arrythmia
Cervical Spondylosis
Chronic Bronchitis
Chronic Obstructive Airways Disease
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
COPD
Coronary Artery Disease
Coronary Heart Disease
Depression
Dermatitis
Diabetes
Diverticular Disease
Diverticulitis
Dizziness
Down's Syndrome
Drug Dependence
Eczema
Endometriosis
Epilepsy
Hearing Impairment
Hernia
HIV
Hypertension
Hyperthyroidism
Hypathyroidism
Hysterectomy
Incontinence
Ischaemic Heart Disease
Irritable Bowel Syndrome / IBS
Joint Pain
Kyphosis
Kyphoscoliosis
Labyrinthitis
Liver Transplant
Lumbar Spondylosis
Meniere's Disease
Migraine
Myasthenia Gravis
Neck Pain
Osteoarthritis
Osteoporosis
Overactive Thyroid
Panic Attacks
Pelvic Inflammatory Disease
Peripheral Vascular Disease
Personality Disorder
Prolapsed Intervertebral Disc
Psoriasis
"Registered Alcoholic"
Renal Transplant
Rheumatic Heart Disease
Scoliosis
Slipped Disc
Underactive Thyroid
Valvular Heart Disease
Varicose Veins
Visual Impairment

5. Any other Diagnosis.

Not listed above should be referred to a Medical Adviser for advice

mandiskem · 30 September 2012 at 1:03PM

i have hypermobility syndrome where all my joints come constantly out of joint i also have musculoskeletal problems where my muscles dont work im in a wheelchair etc been on dla and incap for 14 years been to every single medical for incap year after year

sparkycat2 · 30 September 2012 at 1:16PM

mandiskem wrote: »

i have hypermobility syndrome where all my joints come constantly out of joint i also have musculoskeletal problems where my muscles dont work im in a wheelchair etc been on dla and incap for 14 years been to every single medical for incap year after year

The person I know has never had any face to face assessments by the DWP or ATOS at all.

Since recent benefit changes they have had a couple of invites to work focused interviews at JobCenter+ over the last few years complete with the if you do not attend without good cause your benefit maybe stoped. Which have resulted in them becoming distressed. Until I phone up JobCenter+ and they waive the work focused interview as being pointless.

mandiskem · 30 September 2012 at 2:40PM

I had it for 5 years without having to go for them but it ran out in may they still paying it to me i got a letter yesterday saying customer compliance officer home visit we need to see you about a benefit we are currently paying you we need to ensure thst your on the correct benefit

Ellejmorgan · 30 September 2012 at 2:47PM

mandiskem wrote: »

i have hypermobility syndrome where all my joints come constantly out of joint i also have musculoskeletal problems where my muscles dont work im in a wheelchair etc been on dla and incap for 14 years been to every single medical for incap year after year

This has nothing to do with ESA though, incap is a different benefit..

Ellejmorgan · 30 September 2012 at 2:50PM

I'm in group two and i'm assessed every 6 months, currently waiting for an appeal and my condition cannot improve, I'm in the WRAG..

mandiskem · 30 September 2012 at 2:54PM

Incap benefit has changed from incap to esa support

nannytone_2 · 30 September 2012 at 7:13PM

[ am registered blind, and according to the list, i should be seen in my own environment.

my first ESA50, i had a face to face medical at the job centre. 1 year prognosis

second ESA50 .... no medical required ... 2 year prognosis

PippaGirl_2 · 30 September 2012 at 7:47PM

It's difficult because I know someone who has no sight at all (he can't even differentiate between levels of darkness/light) and he works full time and is independent.

nannytone_2 · 30 September 2012 at 8:06PM

i wou;d quite happily work full time!

i have a degenerative condition, that makes my sight almost constantly change. i was born with almost perfect sight. i wasnt treated as a disabled child, and learnt to do everything the same way others did ... by watching and reading.
i had my own children at a young age and always worked ... but at supposedly 'pocket money' jobs. shop work, bar work ....

i have academic qualifications, but no type of experience in any sprt of jpb that i may now be able to do.

just because someone else has NO sight at all. doesnnt mean i should be able to do more than they can. its all about how a condition affects an individual.

i assume that you have 2 full legs ... but could you beat oscar pistorius in a race?

MUMZ2BEE · 2 October 2012 at 1:26PM

I filled in an ESA50, sent it back, not yet heard a thing.

I suffer from sinus tachycardia which is a fast heart rate, under active thyroid, and depression.

Still on incapacity benefit at the moment.

ESA. Who has to attend face to face assessment?

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