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Essential Oils (& bit if a rant)

Hi All,

I was just wondering if anyone can recommend a good place to buy essential/aromatherapy oils from?

I suffer from chronic pain and have done for over 16 years. Last nite I had my first aromatherapy massage and it helped my pain so so much last night. I don't know if it was the oils or just the massage but if it's the oils they'r wortha try. I obviously can't massage my own back and being single haven't got anyone to do it for me, but my pain is in other areas too so if I can have a bash with the oils and it makes a difference I'll be a hppy bunny.

The rant is that after suffering for over 16 years of pain, this means only getting 2 hrs sleep a night, un able to move and having to miss out of doing things I finally got referred to the chronic pain clinic after a 8 month wait I went today. When referring me my GP said I would be able to access other treatments for pain through this clinic instead of the tablets they are just throwning at the problem, which don't work anyway! So, off i toddled today with hope on my side of hopefully getting possibly hypnotherapy or some physio massage, only to get there and be told that they only offer group therapy!!! FOR Pain Management??? So what do they do, all sit in a cirle saying, "Ohh my back was painful last night" and then other sayin "oohh yes mine was too"?? how does this help with pain? I know it may help with other illnesses but pain?? Really?

i was so angry when they scoffed at me and said in no way at all would I be able to get physio massage or hypnotherapy on the NHS, to which I replied that my NHS do prescribe hypnotherapy and acupunctuer to drug addicts and alcoholics, to which I didn't get a response. My friend is a one time drug addict who has turned his life around and has now become a drug counsellor. When talking to him he said that I I had been a druggie or alcoholic I could have any treatment I wanted! How is that fair?
Also, through another non self inflicted illness, I asked the NHS for counselling. i had to wait 3 months for a referal then when I got there I had an assessment and was told (this was in April) that it would be Jan 2012 before I'll be able to see their counsellor!!! Again, my friend had told me that drug addicts and alcoholics and ex offenders can access these services immediatley, how do the NHS/Government get away with doing this?

People who live a clean life, working and paying their bills get nothing!! I cannot afford to pay for hypnotherapy or massage as I have lost my job through redundancy recently, so cannot get anything, I just think the way this country works is disgusting!!!

Any info on the oils is appreciated, and sorry for the rant, but I'm still fuming after this mornings dibarcle!!

thanks

wuzz
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  • suki1964
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    Love to know where it is you live cos as an alcoholic I waited 8 months to get a detox and then it was done at home with no back up other then aa which is self funding

    I certianly was never offered any hypnotherapy or acupuncture . Indeed I never got any drugs or admissions to posh rehab units - NOTHING other then what I found for myself which was supplied by charities - not the NHS

    You like so many others who are not getting the treatment/benefits/lifestyle you think you deserve, round on others who you think are less deserving. What makes you think an alcoholic or a drug addict are any less deserving?????

    Now as someone who has been through the pain management clinic - you are probably being offered the treatment you need. Might not be what you want but its probably what you need
  • melancholly
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    i'd imagine it was the massage and not the oils that helped..... but it does sound like you need something to change your mindset as you sound very frustrated (understandably). give group therapy a go - pain has a massive psychological component (and if they can't make the physical pain go away, coping with the mental side will be critical).

    i think the information from your friend is just plain inaccurate. it isn't easy for anyone to get access to mental health/psychology services. fixating on what 'you're owed' and how unfair it is that these un-named people get some unspecified help isn't going to be healthy.

    saying the way the country works is disgusting makes it a bit difficult to be completely sympathetic...... perhaps therapy to help focus in on you rather than on other people may help?
    :happyhear
  • wuzzypoo
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    Thanks for your replies. I have also had to get help through a charity as the NHS took far too long even though I have been asking for help for so many years. I have looked and found treatment for other things, but cannot get treatment anywhere for pain. I did pay for treatment when I was working, but as I said I've lost my job so cannot afford it.

    i'm angry that I was told I would be able to get some different help from this pain clinic only for them to look at me like I was from another planet when i asked as they said they have never offered this sort of service, but my GP said other wise and then to be told others are allowed to get these servicese but they are ring fenced for some and others cannot benefit from them isn't fair on anyone, not just me.

    i'm not saying I'm more important than anyone else! it's a fact that some illnesses are self inflicted, and some aren't. i have amiration for people who help themselves as I mention my friend who was into drugs evry heavily and had turned his life around so much and is now working to help others like he was helped, which is always nice to see.

    Why I think the country is disgusting as the money which is watsed on pointless projects and paying MP's expenses etc when people who have worked and paid into the system cannot get treatment which would help them long term, thus saving the NHS money in the long run.
  • podperson
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    I do appreciate where you're coming from - my OH has suffered from mental health issues for many years and we always had to fight tooth and nail for any help he was given. After waiting 6 months for a referral to mental health services he was told they wouldn't offer him anything because their funding had been cut - but around the same time a massive, high-tech clinic opened about 3 streets away for drug addicts and alcoholics. Very frustrating.
    If the massage was helpful but you're struggling to afford them then maybe see if any of the colleges in the area do courses in it. Where I used to live the college would offer massages for a few pounds so the students could practice and they were supervised to make sure they were doing it right (kind of like student hairdressers).
  • suki1964
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    wuzzypoo wrote: »
    Thanks for your replies. I have also had to get help through a charity as the NHS took far too long even though I have been asking for help for so many years. I have looked and found treatment for other things, but cannot get treatment anywhere for pain. I did pay for treatment when I was working, but as I said I've lost my job so cannot afford it.

    i'm angry that I was told I would be able to get some different help from this pain clinic only for them to look at me like I was from another planet when i asked as they said they have never offered this sort of service, but my GP said other wise and then to be told others are allowed to get these servicese but they are ring fenced for some and others cannot benefit from them isn't fair on anyone, not just me.

    i'm not saying I'm more important than anyone else! it's a fact that some illnesses are self inflicted, and some aren't. i have amiration for people who help themselves as I mention my friend who was into drugs evry heavily and had turned his life around so much and is now working to help others like he was helped, which is always nice to see.

    Why I think the country is disgusting as the money which is watsed on pointless projects and paying MP's expenses etc when people who have worked and paid into the system cannot get treatment which would help them long term, thus saving the NHS money in the long run.

    Which self inflicted illness are we talking about here?

    Obesity?
    Lung cancer?
    Diabetes?

    I cant understand what you mean about self inflicted illness
  • wuzzypoo
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    Thanks Podperson,

    i'll have a look around to see if any local college's do this sort of thing, should save a few pounds which will mean I'd be able to go more, iynwim. As I said I do think it was the massage which worked, felt great last night not being uncomfortable and getting some sleep.
  • Depending on what is actually wrong with you, a shiatsu massage from a practitioner may work, or lymphatic drainage, or just plain old in a beauty salon massage.

    You can get proper essential oils from health food shops or somewhere like Neal's Yard Remedies - google them. Lavender is very good for helping sleep, and camomile is calming, tangerine is warm and cheerful and rose combined with geranium is great for being almost sedative in its properties - it's used for women in labour, as it is supposed to calm, ease plain and reduce anxiety. They are quite pricey, but you just add about 3-5 drops into an eggcup of carrier oil - I would suggest that you get sweet almond oil from the chemist, or grapeseed oil from the supermarket.


    But don't believe that anyone gets preferential treatment. Some get treatment due to medical priority - and sometimes it is more effective to set up specialist services - had the poster with a husband suffering from mental health issues attended a normal psychiatric clinic, only to be sharing the waiting room with the addictions clinic, there would have been upset that they mixed the two together, even though many addicts have been found to be self medicating for the exact same conditions. Moreover, someone with a mental illness may be able to live for many years with limited treatment, but someone with the identical illness but a dual diagnosis of dependence due to being diagnosed too late could easily die without intensive input for a brief period of time (the funding usually disappears after 8-12 weeks and then they are back where they started).


    Moreover, there is a danger in making distinctions between who is deserving and who has brought ill health upon themselves - as the latter category can include cancer patients who have smoked, heart disease patients who haven't exercised, osteoporosis sufferers who didn't eat enough dairy products - or people with chronic pain who consistently ignored advice to bend with their knees and not their backs and taken painkillers without taking steps to adjust their bad habits at any point.


    Group therapy may help, as you get the chance to say how bad you feel about things, share your feelings about whether it can ever go away, talk about how angry you are, for example.


    A course I went on included a little aspect of talking, and I was surprised at the number of people there who were convinced their lives were basically over because they had an acute back injury, or were fed up with their recovery not being completed within 12 weeks of surgery. Being in a group made it easier to say that some people don't get better, at best, they get remission. Hopefully, someone benefitted from the different perspective.

    In the same part of the course, they discussed the physiology of pain, posture, suitable exercise, etc, all of which are important when dealing with chronic conditions.

    I'm quite up on the exercises and posture stuff, having had [starts counting on fingers and toes] 25 years since my first major injury as a result of a lifelong condition or two, but I had never said out loud before that I am never going to be cured. But I don't feel my life is over, it's different to other people's, but not over.

    So I still benefitted from one of those different courses.



    (Even though the MIL got free acupuncture at a private clinic within a week of referral through the NHS when she slipped a disc last month and I still haven't been offered it even when the physiotherapist is qualified in it, in all the frequent flyer miles I've clocked up in my area at physio, despite asking :))
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  • curlytop12
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    hi there,
    i was thinking if the massage/oils worked so well for you( and you must feel so much better for a good nights rest,constant not sleeping wrecks your day to day living) and you have mentioned that painkillers don't work,this probably means your pain is a physical reaction to a mental/tension/stress/depression problem.now i know this sounds unbelievable,but it is a very common problem,especially in todays climate.i wouldn't dream of asking you if any of thes symptoms "fit" with you,but maybe worth a thought.this will be why a therapy option was offered.though i have to say,you obviously were not informed of why by the person who referred you,which is awful.try and remember though that it is wonderful that you may be starting on a "recovery" path with massage/oils/therapy and that you don't need to be dependant on painkillers for ever,which in time bring on many other problems-health problems and addiction to name but two.
    def try the local colledge for massage,couldn't believe the prices offered at ours!
    (they do hair/facials/nails too)
    really hope you start to feel better,good luck:)
  • bratz81
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    not going to comment on types of treatments on NHS, or who's 'more deserving' and who isn't but regarding oils, I always get mine from a site called http://www.pagandreams.co.uk/

    It is mostly a site that sells pagan/Wiccan stuff but they do a huge range of essential oils, top quality and they always arrive super quick. I've ordered oils one afternoon and had them arrive the next morning. Plus, for each oil they have a little bit of text explaining what it is used for etc, which is useful.
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  • nappentass
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    If the massage helped ease the pain then it's possible you will be able to find a therapy/therapist that will help so please don't give up.
    Local colleges often look for people to practice on and charge a small fee, also look out for local shows (like Mind,Body,Spirit or Complementary Health) in your area and go find out what is available & try something out to find out what works for you (if you try lots of different thing you may not be able to figure out what works best so you can try ask if they would honor show prices at a later date)
    Or just ask around to find out is anyone recommends a local therapist.

    FWIW I had pain for over 3 years tried Bowen Technique at a local Complementary Health show & was pain free after a taster session! Because of that after being made redundant I'm now qualified in Bowen Technique & Emmett Technique and have been able to assist other people with pain issues.
    hth
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