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Claiming benefits whilst doing an apprenticeship

wilkies5
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My son, 19, is interested in a local apprenticeship for £100 a week for 14 months. As there is no promise of f/t employment afterwards he is considering his options. Are there opportunities to claim ANY benefits to assist him with his rent, running a car to work etc. It's so demoralising to realise that he will be worse off taking this opportunity up, than to remain on JSA.
Thanks for your advice.
Thanks for your advice.
Wilkies5
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If he is living at home, there is no possibility of him receiving housing benefit (local housing allowance) - this isn't allowed when close family live in the same property and the now non-dependent used to be a dependent. HB is never payable when the landlord lives in the same property as their lodger to whom they are related.
If he lives in his own digs, he should check the Local Housing Allowance rate for a room in a shared property on the LHA direct website. It is quite likely that if he is on a low wage and not eligible for much in the way of LHA compared to what his rent is, he will struggle.
His apprenticeship money is twice the rate of unemployment benefit. He may not get guaranteed employment from it, but is more likely to, compared to someone with no recent experience or skills gained during an apprenticeship. Best way to view it is as an investment, rather than focus on the risk.
You may find the Turn2us online benefit calculator helpful for calculating entitlement.
Also, he should download the MSE budget planner and work out his entire outgoings and work through the MSE website to find out how to cut his expenses. If he's not entitled to extra income, then he's simply going to have to control his costs.
If he was on JSA, he wouldn't get any help with running a car either.0 -
When I left school I did a training course and the allowance was £29 pw full time (ok so it was 1989!) I ended up earning a pretty good wage when I had finished it working for the LA (a job I would never have got if I hadnt done the training) . All I can suggest is that he look at it as a short term struggle for long term benefits..if it will help him have a career it must be a good idea! JSA is only £65 pw so its better than that surely?JAN GC- £155.77 out of £200
FEB GC £197.31 out of £180:o. MARCH GC - out of £200
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bertiebots wrote: ».. JSA is only £65 pw so its better than that surely?
That's the rate for older people. The OPs son will be elgible for £51.85 on JSA and then has his board to pay towards his keep.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/Employedorlookingforwork/DG_100187570 -
OOPS sorry I didnt realise there was a lower rate! Well that is even more reason to take the apprenticeship then?JAN GC- £155.77 out of £200
FEB GC £197.31 out of £180:o. MARCH GC - out of £200
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He is extremely lucky to even get an apprenticeship in this day and age.
£100 a week, say he gives you £30 a week for board.
That leaves him with a wopping £70 a week to call his own.
I bet you dont have £70 a week to call your own eh.
I know I wish I did.make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
and we will never, ever return.0 -
He is very lucky to be getting paid to learn. If he went to uni he would be taking on tens of thousands of pound in debt.0
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I think the trick for the OP is to sell the apprenticeship on a glass half full basis - it's twice the rate of JSA and will catapult him past his under qualified and under experienced peers in future applications.
Rather than allow the boy to focus on the glass half empty - that it's half the minimum wage and there's no guarantee of a job (not that there's any job these days that are guaranteed...).
It's a shame that the financial millstone of running a car at that age is a factor that is making him think twice about what could be a good opportunity.
What are his other options, by the way? Does he have a university or college place? Another job lined up? Much in the way of skills, experience, qualifications? If the apprenticeship is not a go-er (they'll have lots of applicants anyway I imagine), what's plan B?0 -
It's so demoralising to realise that he will be worse off taking this opportunity up, than to remain on JSA.
How can he possibly be worse off when he will be getting £50 a week extra? Quite apart from that, this is a very narrow minded view to have - he is learning valuable skills that will hopefully set him up for his working career.0 -
Hi, I have to agree, its to good an opportunity to give up.
Someone mentioned apprentiships in 1989, my OH did his YTS as it was then and managed whilst living at home on £29.00 per week. Its only for a year, which isn't long in the great scheme of things.
And, no I don't have £70.00 a week either to spend purely on me
Plus it isn't a question of remaining of JSA, you can't do that, the next job that comes along that your Son gets might be rubbish in comparison to the apprentiship and what that might lead to.0 -
I'm graduating in June with no guarantee of a job at the end either.
For four years I haven't been able to claim housing benefit or JSA. I would love the chance to earn £100 a week - even though it wouldn't cover my bills.0
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