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    • geri1965
    • By geri1965 23rd Feb 09, 12:51 PM
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    Replacing bathroom radiator with heated towel rail
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 12:51 PM
    Replacing bathroom radiator with heated towel rail 23rd Feb 09 at 12:51 PM
    Hi

    Can anyone tell me what's involved to replace a bathroom radiator with a heated towel rail - would the system need to be drained down completely or can the radiator be isolated and removed and replace with the towel rail?

    I was also wondering how much it might cost for someone to do the work (labour only) assuming it is too difficult for me to do myself?

    Many thanks.
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    • latecomer
    • By latecomer 23rd Feb 09, 1:03 PM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 1:03 PM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 1:03 PM
    Unless you get a towel rail thats the same width as your existing radiator then you are going to need to alter the plumbing. What kind of valves do you have at the moment?
    • geri1965
    • By geri1965 23rd Feb 09, 1:18 PM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 1:18 PM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 1:18 PM
    I don't know what they are called - they are small white plastic, not thermostatic.

    I was thinking of getting one the same width anyway, as my bathroom is quite small and the space it's going into is restricted.
    • latecomer
    • By latecomer 23rd Feb 09, 1:30 PM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 1:30 PM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 1:30 PM
    If its the same width then it shouldn't be a big job. Provided you can shut off the valves then you shouldn't need to drain the system. Simply shut the valves off, drain the radiator and after making sure the valve connections are clea, fit the towel rail.
    • andrew-b
    • By andrew-b 24th Feb 09, 12:10 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 12:10 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 12:10 AM
    Not necessarily as simple... valves can be straight or angled.

    For a standard radiator the valves usually connect into the sides at left & right. If the pipework runs along at skirting level and then bends upto the valve (or if the pipes comes straight up out the floor) the radiator would have angled valves.

    For a standard ladder-type towel rail the valves connect into the bottom at either side. Therefore if you have pipes running along at skirting level and bending upto angled valves for the old radiator you would need to substitute the valves for straight valves which requires a drain down - plus also the towel rail would need to be slightly wider.

    Andy
  • sparky883
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    • 24th Feb 09, 7:40 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 7:40 AM
    We replaced a radiator in our bathroom with a heated towel rail,Against the advise of our plumbers merchant (said it would be cold) and 3 months later we swapped it back again!!
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    • roddydogs
    • By roddydogs 24th Feb 09, 7:46 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 7:46 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 7:46 AM
    They dont give out much BTU, a towel rail should be as well as a radiator, not instead of.
    • latecomer
    • By latecomer 24th Feb 09, 8:45 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 8:45 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 8:45 AM
    Very good point. I almost bought one from Screwfix while on offer until I realised it was only 160W. that wouldn't keep our cupboard warm nevermind the bathroom!
    • jblack
    • By jblack 24th Feb 09, 8:50 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 8:50 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 8:50 AM
    So can anyone guess why they're called 'towel rails' then
    • lisal0u
    • By lisal0u 24th Feb 09, 11:24 AM
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    Hi,

    We have put a towel radiator into our tiny bathroom and our plumber has informed us it will not be good enough to heat the room! I checked that the BTU output would be enough for the room size but apparently towel radiators are not regulated like radiators are. So they can say it will have an output of say 1400 BTU's but that will only happen if your boiler is heating water to 90 degrees

    We have had to put underfloor heating in to make sure it will be warm enough!

    Maybe worth having a word with a plumber before you buy anything!
    • geri1965
    • By geri1965 24th Feb 09, 11:27 AM
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    Hmmm, good point. I didn't think about any potential loss of heat.
    • TomsMom
    • By TomsMom 24th Feb 09, 12:49 PM
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    Just to reiterate what others have said. My son replaced his bathroom radiator with a towel rail. It wasn't very long before he replaced his lovely new towel rail with............. a radiator .
    • Bigjenny
    • By Bigjenny 24th Feb 09, 1:50 PM
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    Agree with other posters, Heated Towel Rail not enough to heat bathroom. When we moved here soon changed ours for a Radiator.
    • Canucklehead
    • By Canucklehead 24th Feb 09, 1:58 PM
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    Good afternoon: The key is to look for towel radiators with the designation EN 442 then size as you would a regular radiator. The OH has sourced several towel radiators from here and has had no complaints about heat output....in other words it can be done

    HTH

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    • Kiran
    • By Kiran 24th Feb 09, 2:56 PM
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    Good afternoon: The key is to look for towel radiators with the designation EN 442 then size as you would a regular radiator. The OH has sourced several towel radiators from here and has had no complaints about heat output....in other words it can be done

    HTH

    Canucklehead
    Originally posted by Canucklehead

    Couldn't agree more. I think the main problem is people expecting to replace a standard radiator with a similar sized towell radiator. Swapping for an equivalent output will usually mean an increase in size.

    That being said, I knocked our bathroom and seperate WC in to 1 room about a year ago and still havent put a radiator back in so whatever the temperature increase, it will be scorching!!
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