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  • joncass
    joncass Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Coupon-Mad,
    Yes, unfortunately I have named the driver in the original letter sent directly to UKPC:mad:

    I realise now that has scuppered my chances but I'm still going ahead with the POPLA
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,777 Forumite
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    We agree you should continue to POPLA, and if you lose at POPLA, don't pay them. You don't have to pay, POPLA isn't binding on you, and a driver can defend in small claims (we win them too - no risk of a CCJ or huge costs even if not).

    But MSE's advice should have changed to match this forum's proven winning advice, YEARS ago

    However, you may well win at POPLA anyway, UKPC often lose even in these circs.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top of this/any page where it says:
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  • joncass
    joncass Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Appeal submitted!
  • joncass
    joncass Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Hi,
    I just received an email from POPLA saying that UKPC have uploaded their evidence and that I have 7 days to provide comments.
    What is the next step?
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 41,357 Forumite
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    joncass wrote: »
    Hi,
    I just received an email from POPLA saying that UKPC have uploaded their evidence and that I have 7 days to provide comments.
    What is the next step?

    Read their evidence through and rebut any and everything that is fundamentally wrong, or not quite right, or that you disagree with.

    POPLA may work on the basis that unless you rebut a point, you tacitly accept it is correct.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • paulstevens64
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    Two straightforward choices when faced with an evidence pack at POPLA:

    1) Don' bother reading. Do not respond. Let POPLA assume that everything the lying cheating parking company have said in their evidence is true. Await the outcome.

    2) Read the evidence. Rebut every point. E.G. pick holes and dispute everything. Make it clear that they are lying.

    Your choice
  • MothballsWallet
    MothballsWallet Posts: 15,852 Forumite
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    You need to look through what UKPC have provided and rebut everything that's wrong with it.

    Search this forum for "UKPC POPLA evidence rebuttal" or something like that and check anything up to 4 months old for guidance.
  • joncass
    joncass Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Hi,

    Thanks everyone for your quick responses. I have tried to read the evidence pack but it will not download properly, I am met with this gobbledygook! I have copied and pasted a section of it below.


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  • beamerguy
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    joncass wrote: »
    Hi,
    I just received an email from POPLA saying that UKPC have uploaded their evidence and that I have 7 days to provide comments.
    What is the next step?

    Do yourself a big favour, learn from history about UKPC

    You will see all about these cowboys
    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=UKPC
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    joncass wrote: »
    Hi,

    Thanks everyone for your quick responses. I have tried to read the evidence pack but it will not download properly, I am met with this gobbledygook! I have copied and pasted a section of it below.


    Yes just code.

    Try asking your browser to open it in a new browser.
    Google will do this, not sure about microsoft
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