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  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 29,615 Forumite
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    family to change beds (cleaners won't do this)


    Our lady that did the laundry (£20) also did a bed change (£10 including laundering).
    So you can find people to do this.


    We are a caring family and there are a few of us but we all have jobs, babies and don't all live nearby.
    We found it hard work with 6 of us doing money, benefits, food, DIY, hearing aid batteries, fixing broken jewelry, spectacles, dealing with nurses/doctors, carers, property maintenance not to mention entertainment.


    My neice did cleaning at one point but was paid the same as the previous cleaner so we didn't have an issue with that as she did a certain amount of jobs that a cleaner wouldn't have done (like putting on a morphine patch).
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    How much does her Aunt pay her?
  • sheramber
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    iIf your MIL is in assisted living she will already be paying for the carer services.

    There is a link on this page to the Car Quality Commission who inspect these facilities.

    https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/care/housing-options/assisted-living-and-extra-care-housing/

    The Care Quality Commission oversee these facilities.

    You could complain to them if your MIL is not getting the correct level of care.

    Sheltered Housing is not regulated but carers are not provided to sheltered housing tenants.
  • calleyw
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    GlasweJen wrote: »
    family to change beds (cleaners won't do this)


    I must have imagined my friends cleaner doing that as well as putting the wet washing on a rack!!!!!


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  • GlasweJen
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    calleyw wrote: »
    I must have imagined my friends cleaner doing that as well as putting the wet washing on a rack!!!!!


    Yours


    Calley x

    A cleaner might hang washing but a carer wont, they're paid to provide care. They're quite often only in the house for half an hour to an hour so if they're there to put a wash on they won't be to unload it.

    My PA will but she's independent, the councils carers (big company called cordia) won't hang a washing - their staff won't lift a washing basket full of wet washing as it's too heavy according to their moving and handling policy. To move me they used a hoist attached to the ceiling, if the hoist wasn't working then I had to pay to hire one from an external company.
  • kingfisherblue
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    To be fair, an elderly friend and neighbour has carers a few times a day. I also pop in. If I put the washer on, a carer hangs it out. If they have put the washer on and I'm the next person to go in, I'll put it out. Ditto bringing it in. The carers don't clean though - either family do it, or they pay someone.


    I do little extras such as picking up hearing aid batteries, birthday cards, etc. My friend doesn't want to ask her daughter to choose her own birthday card, hence the reason that I do it. I fit things such as this into my existing caring responsibilities.


    OP, most carers receive minimum wage or just above. My daughter (a careworker) is paid £8.85 an hour, which is a very good rate of pay for her job. Most firms near me only pay around £8-£8.20 for team leaders, who have greater responsibilities. £12.50 an hour, even if it is legal for your wife to pay herself when she has PoA (and I'm not sure that it is), is just plain greed.



    According to this article (admittedly last year, so figures may be different), a newly qualified nurse earns £11.32 an hour. I don't know how you can even begin to justify your wife earning so much more.

    https://nursingnotes.co.uk/how-much-do-nurses-get-paid/
  • calleyw
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    GlasweJen wrote: »
    A cleaner might hang washing but a carer wont, they're paid to provide care. They're quite often only in the house for half an hour to an hour so if they're there to put a wash on they won't be to unload it.

    I never said anything about carers you where the one who said that cleaners don't change beds and don't hang out/up washing!!!!


    "family to change beds (cleaners won't do this), a laundry service to deal with laundry if the cleaner won't do it (some will, some won't)"


    And I replied saying my friends cleaner did!!!!


    Get it right before you start telling me what carers do. I am well aware of what they do and don't do thank you very much!!!!


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  • Red-Squirrel_2
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    Comms69 wrote: »
    So approx. £12.50 an hour, to care for your own mum.


    Nice work if you can get it...

    Sorry no, it’s not ‘nice work’. I’m sure the daughter would prefer her mum was well and didn’t need any care.
  • hb2
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    I'm glad to see that someone has already suggested the 'Talking Point' forum for the Alzheimer's Society. The OP will get great advice there from people who have been through similar situations.
    It's not difficult!
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  • Rambosmum
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    How is care currently organised? If there a care coordinator or social worker?


    it is possible for your wife to take on some of the caring role as a paid PA - she would be an employee and your mother an employer (or your sister in law with POA). Your wife could not be both employee and employer.


    If there was a care coordinator or social worker you could ask them to draw this up formally - it's something we do fairly regularly. We accept and understand that family cannot always provide free care for family members depending on other commitments they have. How much they will allow your mother to pay will be dependent on their PA rates (not the care agency rate).


    To prevent accusations of fraud you would be best drawing this up formally - your wife having a contract which sets out her working hours, her pay and her job and make sure that your MIL or SIL are appropriately insured and paying relevant tax, NI and pensions contributions as required - there are specialist companies which charge a minimal fee to support with this, they also do pay role too so takes some of the stress away.


    Whether this is permissible in the scheme your MIL lives in is dependent on how it is set up.


    There is absolutely nothing to stop your MIL or her POA from setting up a private care arrangement.
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