How can I stop living pay to pay cheque?

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  • ambitiouspanda
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    rathernot wrote: »
    This isn't going to sound helpful but frankly you don't need to be asking this on a savings forum you just need to use some common sense about things.
    • Walk
    • Don't get your nails done as often
    • Don't get your hair done as often
    • Eat less or buy cheaper food
    • Don't pay tithe
    • Pay more or less on the credit card so be out of debit quicker or in debt longer and have some money left each month sooner or later

    There's nothing revolutionary about any of that and if you're going to say "But I have really awkward hair and I have to pay tithe" it perhaps shows where you priorities really are.

    Thank you so much for your input. It is common sense. You’re right. Yes, I will do my own hair moving forward etc.. etc... and my nails too.
    **2018 G O A L S**
    [STRIKE]1) Pay off overdraft[/STRIKE]
    2) Pay off credit card by November 2018
    3) Begin 2019 debt free and be debt free for the rest of my life!
  • pearl123
    pearl123 Posts: 2,056 Forumite
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    edited 10 March 2018 at 3:49PM
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    Somewhere on the debt board there is an expenses questionnaire. It includes the cost of buying clothes etc. If you could fill it out you would get a clearer idea of where everything goes.
    When you are in debt it is wise to let all luxuries go. A mars bar becomes a luxury!
    I!!!8217;m a Christian. I don!!!8217;t pay anything to the Church. Just very occasional donations to charity!
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,726 Forumite
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    Being a Christian is great, but the bible has something to say about usury. God wouldnt want you to pay them.

    So cut the tithe out or down until debt is paid. Same with the nails, and get cheaper hair services.

    Once your debt is paid, and you have emergency cash of at least 500, you can then reinstate any tithe.
  • theoretica
    theoretica Posts: 12,306 Forumite
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    I think it is great you are paying so much off your debt each month. What is your plan for the money once you are out of debt? I would encourage you to put a large chunk of it into savings, so you don't need to take out debt in the future, and before you get used to spending it.
    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
    Lewis Carroll
  • capital0ne
    capital0ne Posts: 872 Forumite
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    Expenses (I live in London):
    Therapy: £50
    Nails: £66
    Hair: £70
    Tithe: £258.79
    Left over to cover me until next pay is £100 (4 weeks)
    Any advice would be useful!
    Left over:
    My Advice - ditch the above - £500 ahead at the end of each month - simples
  • Bravepants
    Bravepants Posts: 1,503 Forumite
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    Yeah, I'm not sure about the tithe thing either.

    If you lost your home due to debt, would your church bail you out?
    If you want to be rich, live like you're poor; if you want to be poor, live like you're rich.
  • Morphoton
    Morphoton Posts: 90 Forumite
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    A comment on the travelcard cost is could some/all of the journey be done by bus ?
    A bus only travelcard is £81.50 per month.
    Alternatively as London buses are zoneless any travelcard allows bus travel in any zone not just in the particular zone of the travelcard. So a Zone 2+3 travelcard at £98.00 allows bus travel in zone 1 with tube in zone 2+3.
    Likewise a Zone 1+2 travelcard at £131.00 allows tube in zones 1+2 with bus in zone 3.
    Without knowing your journey I do not know how feasible any of the above are.
  • RG2015
    RG2015 Posts: 5,904 Forumite
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    edited 11 March 2018 at 9:18AM
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    In this case, the recipient of the money decides upon the ultimate beneficiary. One would hope that such beneficiary is worthy of the sacrifice being made by ambitiouspanda.

    Ambitiouspanda, I respect your openness and honesty and hope that you achieve the outcome that you deserve.
  • jamesperrett
    jamesperrett Posts: 1,009 Forumite
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    I am going to call Barclays (my cc card) and see if they can extend my cc promotional period by 1-2 months. That should swerve any unexpected costs when repaying the loan.

    You would probably do better to look at getting another 0% card and transferring the Barclaycard balance to it. That way you could probably give yourself a couple of years to pay off the debt rather than a couple of months. Just don't be tempted to add anything else to the card.
  • bowlhead99
    bowlhead99 Posts: 12,295 Forumite
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    edited 10 March 2018 at 11:06PM
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    capital0ne wrote: »
    My Advice - ditch the above - £500 ahead at the end of each month - simples
    Taking more cash to save is not 'simples' if the therapy is useful and valuable to you (addressing a medical or psychological condition).

    There is clearly some emotional value in the tithe also, although if financial well-being is a priority, it's perhaps something which any reasonable person would be happy for you to pay later in a larger amount if it takes you out of the hand-to-mouth rat-race. Due to fixed costs of life in general, it's way easier for someone on £100k to give 15% of their pay than someone on £50k to give 10% and there is a lot more for the beneficiaries if the £50k person cuts their 10% to 5% but then ups it to 15% when they are ten or twenty years further along in their career and on more money.

    In practice of course living on the remaining £90-100 a month in London is tough if that is to cover all clothing, leisure and socialising etc beyond the basic bills and food for a person in their 20s. But clearly where the person is living paycheque-to-paycheque but part of the paycheque is actually £900 clearing a credit card and that credit card balance will be settled in four or five months with no further ongoing payments needed, the light at the end of four-or-five months' long tunnel is shining brightly when all of a sudden no credit card payments are needed.

    So, there is no real problem. If looking to save money, the concept of nails probably 'helping for work' depends on what sense it helps. Is it a social thing, or do you really have better prospects (tips, bonuses, promotion prospects) by having a professional do your nails, rather than learning to do them yourself to a high standard? If it's an image thing, may be better to save on the nails to spend on clothes and shoes which are harder to DIY.
    atush wrote: »
    Being a Christian is great, but the bible has something to say about usury. God wouldnt want you to pay them.
    Being only 24 but earning 45-50k+ a year (assumed from having £2,600 net pay a month after paying 7.5% pension contribs) might imply she is in an industry like financial services where the income is pretty much usury-driven! Not many other industries make that kind of salary available to relative youngsters, beyond perhaps commercial law or media/entertainment (the latter a possibility, given the nails are apparently career-enhancing). :)
    I am going to call Barclays (my cc card) and see if they can extend my cc promotional period by 1-2 months. That should swerve any unexpected costs when repaying the loan.
    Let us know how you get on, unlikely they will have much interest in doing that unless you are willing to pay them a fee for doing it. What's in it for them? You owe them £x and are not in financial hardship (£45-50k gross income, £4k owed) and they have the right to start charging you interest from next month. Why wouldn't they?

    As jamesperret says, probably a better route is to find another credit company where for a small balance transfer fee you can transfer your balance for a decent amount of time at 0%. For example, this one from Virgin (https://uk.virginmoney.com/virgin/credit-cards/pre-apply/?product=bt-card) is 32 months at 0% in exchange for a 0.6% fee.

    So for under £25 fee you could spread your £3700 debt over almost three years and reduce your £900+ per month payments to more like £100-£120 range, giving you plenty for living, saving, and investment.
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