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  • mutley74
    mutley74 Posts: 4,022 Forumite
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    JP1978 wrote: »
    The only need to worry about the car is if they were creating dust.... but if they were creating dust (from the asbestos), it wouldnt be my car I was worried about!

    Assume that the banging you can hear isnt them smashing the asbestos panels up? One would hope that they are been unscrewed and removed in one piece?

    They made a hole in the roof first, which they used to throw down panels into. Not much use of water to dampen the panels, and mostly hand tools to displace them. They only wore part fitted Protective suits, no dust masks - men were part of a major demolition firm, but working today as favour for the owner.
  • EachPenny
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    mutley74 wrote: »
    They made a hole in the roof first, which they used to throw down panels into. Not much use of water to dampen the panels, and mostly hand tools to displace them. They only wore part fitted Protective suits, no dust masks - men were part of a major demolition firm, but working today as favour for the owner.

    Not the way to do the job, even if you believe the panels are 'safe' asbestos.

    But 9am on a Sunday is a good a time as any to do that kind of thing... difficult to get hold of anyone from the council or HSE, and very little chance of a random inspection by the authorities.

    And as workers for a demolition firm they have no excuse for not knowing the dangers involved, or what the correct working methods should be.
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  • mutley74
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    EachPenny wrote: »
    Not the way to do the job, even if you believe the panels are 'safe' asbestos.

    But 9am on a Sunday is a good a time as any to do that kind of thing... difficult to get hold of anyone from the council or HSE, and very little chance of a random inspection by the authorities.

    And as workers for a demolition firm they have no excuse for not knowing the dangers involved, or what the correct working methods should be.

    I agree, very poor and unprofessional. The chap doing the work said he doing it as a favour to the owner (for free), and the asbestos level was so low, there was no risk to anyone. I disagreed with him, but it is typical of the new neighbor. They now started building a massive full house width, approx. 3/4 m depth conservatory - they gone down route of no planning permission as we were not told, plus a full width dorma in the loft.
  • comeandgo
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    Are you sure there is no planning permission? Our council stopped telling near neighbours of planning a few years ago, it's now just in the local papers or stuck on a lamppost close by.
  • EachPenny
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    mutley74 wrote: »
    I agree, very poor and unprofessional. The chap doing the work said he doing it as a favour to the owner (for free), and the asbestos level was so low, there was no risk to anyone. I disagreed with him, but it is typical of the new neighbor. They now started building a massive full house width, approx. 3/4 m depth conservatory - they gone down route of no planning permission as we were not told, plus a full width dorma in the loft.
    They might have, or think they have, permitted development rights. But probably not.
    comeandgo wrote: »
    Are you sure there is no planning permission? Our council stopped telling near neighbours of planning a few years ago, it's now just in the local papers or stuck on a lamppost close by.
    It is easy for the OP to find out if there is. Just search the name of the relevant council online with the word 'planning' as well. One of the results should be a planning application online search facility. Put the address into that and it will show you details of all planning applications for whatever period of time the council have put theirs online.
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  • mutley74
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    EachPenny wrote: »
    They might have, or think they have, permitted development rights. But probably not.


    It is easy for the OP to find out if there is. Just search the name of the relevant council online with the word 'planning' as well. One of the results should be a planning application online search facility. Put the address into that and it will show you details of all planning applications for whatever period of time the council have put theirs online.

    The local planning office told me that one can build an extension, single storey up to 3m if semi, and 4m for detached. No planning required to develop a full size dorma.
  • EachPenny
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    mutley74 wrote: »
    The local planning office told me that one can build an extension, single storey up to 3m if semi, and 4m for detached. No planning required to develop a full size dorma.

    That does depend though on whether the property has PD rights (some have it specifically excluded, others are within zones (e.g. conservation areas) where PD is removed in whole or part from all properties).

    It also depends on what other development has been carried out on the 'original house' and also the position of the extension relative to the boundaries of the property.

    Likewise, whether you need to apply for planning consent for roof alterations will depend on the exact circumstances, and there are specific volumetric limits on PD rights.
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