Sudden leap in electricity use, seemingly after power cut
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Fridge freezer could be causing the additional usage - maybe it has developed a fault and not running as it normally would.If you're there for a day, take a meter reading, switch off the fridge/freezer for a few hours and take a reading again. Then switch the fridge back on and take another reading a few hours later. See how they compare.As already suggested though, getting a plug in monitor, which tells you the electricity used by a specific appliance plugged in to it might help track down what uses the most electricity.11kwh is what you might expect for a house occupied 24/7, so either the meter's lying or something is eating the juice.Not sure how local you are but if you can call in, read the meter, kill all breakers on the consumer unit and leave for several hoursIn an empty house, 11kwh must be generating heat, light or noise in significant amounts!!The daily rate you quote of about 3Kwh before the unexplained increase also seems high to me, given the figures you quote for the lights/appliances left on.
No smart meter installed, my numbers are from the actual meter. It's a simple affair with a numerical digital readout, nothing flashing or spinning to indicate the rate of usage. Which would be useful, as you could boil a kettle or something to see if it increased the rate.
What else was raised - oh yes, the boiler is on - operated via a thermostat, as required under the unoccupied insurance policy endorsements. It's almost new, with a new thermostat and controller, but it appears to be running okay. The gas use has increased a little as it must be clicking on periodically. When I arrived on Friday morning, it was off, but the radiators whilst cold, weren't totally cold, it had clearly been on earlier that day.0 -
As you suggest you need to read the meters when you arrive as well as when you leave so you can work out how much you are using when you are there and you'll also know how much is being used when you aren't.
If the boiler is running then there's a fan and pump i it so you really need to adjust the temperaturs so that it only comes on when the temperature is quite low (say 10 degrees). Make sure that it hasn't got an "instant hot water" feature which keeps a small amount of water hot all the time.
Why have you got the fridge and freezer running if no one is there, surely you'd be better off emptying them and turning them off. the same with the broadband router unless you've got a surveillance cameraNever under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers0 -
Might be worth getting a cheap clip-on energy monitor, especially if it records total as well as instant usage, so that you can get an idea whether the meter is recording correctly. That might be more useful than a wild goose chase with each appliance, which might well show that they're all OK but you'd still have no positive evidence that the meter was faulty.
If the total usage recorded by the official meter and the energy monitor were significantly different then it would justify getting the meter tested, which might well lead to a significant rebate.
BTW, when putting the house on the market it would be worth pointing out that the meters are conventional: many potential buyers don't like smart meters, so it would be an easy plus point.0 -
matelodave wrote: »As you suggest you need to read the meters when you arrive as well as when you leave so you can work out how much you are using when you are there and you'll also know how much is being used when you aren't.If the boiler is running then there's a fan and pump i it so you really need to adjust the temperaturs so that it only comes on when the temperature is quite low (say 10 degrees).Make sure that it hasn't got an "instant hot water" feature which keeps a small amount of water hot all the time.Why have you got the fridge and freezer running if no one is there, surely you'd be better off emptying them and turning them off. the same with the broadband router unless you've got a surveillance camera
I really don't think it's a faulty meter, I'm not suggesting that, or trying to get out of paying for power used - nor even trying to get the power consumption down especially low - I was quite happy with about 18 quids worth a month - just not 50 quids worth when nothing has outwardly changed. The usage pattern has changed significantly in a way that we can't fathom and that's what I want to get to the bottom of. It's the sudden increase I don't like or understand.BTW, when putting the house on the market it would be worth pointing out that the meters are conventional: many potential buyers don't like smart meters, so it would be an easy plus point.0 -
Is there an outside power socket? Gardener making use of it to plug in his tumble dryer / pizza oven / kiln?
Houbara suggested that someone plug in an old fashioned one-bar electric fire the other day and time how long it takes the meter to register a unit which is a good approach. One of the few types of heater that doesn't have some sort of thermostat or other complication. (I'll suggest it because he can't as he's been PPR'd.)0 -
I know that you're seeking an explanation for the sudden increase in consumption, but just for info purposes: when we moved into our current house a couple of months ago, I realised we had a fridge and a freezer in the utility room, both empty and pointlessly keeping themselves cold. I switched them both off and weekly consumption dropped by 40kWh.
I guess what I'm getting at is that if either or both of the two cooling appliances you have running are more than a few years old, they may be the culprits of high consumption and giving them to your sister might give her an unexpected bill increase!
You can pick up clip-on type energy monitors on ebay for peanuts and that would give you a live reading of consumption. They're a bit crap at low wattages, but you seem to be looking for quite large figures so I think you'd be fine.
I'm assuming there's no long forgotten electric underfloor heating somewhere that has started to kick in since it got colder??0 -
Have you checked the loft, garage or any outbuildings? There might be heating tape wrapped around the pipes, a forgotten tubular heater or a fan heater with a frost setting. If there was a nasty voltage spike caused by lightning or whatever, the thermostat contacts might have stuck together. Or it may just have started to kick in because the overnight temperatures are now falling.
I have a De’Longhi 3kW fan heater whose frost setting seems to be ridiculously high: it would even come on overnight if left in an occupied bedroom. Admittedly it would switch itself off probably in less than a minute, but it would repeat the cycle several times per hour. I don't know to what temperature it would maintain an otherwise unheated house, but I wouldn't risk it as a backup if the CH pump failed or the programmer glitched when away on holiday: I fear it would run all night and most of the day !0 -
coffeehound wrote: »Is there an outside power socket? Gardener making use of it to plug in his tumble dryer / pizza oven / kiln?Houbara suggested that someone plug in an old fashioned one-bar electric fire the other day and time how long it takes the meter to register a unit which is a good approach. One of the few types of heater that doesn't have some sort of thermostat or other complication. (I'll suggest it because he can't as he's been PPR'd.)I guess what I'm getting at is that if either or both of the two cooling appliances you have running are more than a few years old, they may be the culprits of high consumption and giving them to your sister might give her an unexpected bill increase!I'm assuming there's no long forgotten electric underfloor heating somewhere that has started to kick in since it got colder??
I'll look at monitors before I next visit, I can't do much just now as I'm going away.Have you checked the loft, garage or any outbuildings? There might be heating tape wrapped around the pipes, a forgotten tubular heater or a fan heater with a frost setting. If there was a nasty voltage spike caused by lightning or whatever, the thermostat contacts might have stuck together. Or it may just have started to kick in because the overnight temperatures are now falling.
ETA: The loft has been sealed for about 50 years, we had a job opening the hatch (another insurance condition) - so I doubt there's anything modern at all up there, let alone heating. The hole into it is considerably smaller than a 21st century 'well nourished' bottom, so if there are any treasures, they're staying up there.0 -
I would echo the advice to get a cheap clamp-on energy monitor and monitor real time consumption as you switch on/off appliances. Ignore the comment about inaccuracy. The one I have is inaccurate when measuring low consumption, i.e. less than ~100W but above that will resolve to 10W accuracy. You are trying to detect 8kW/day which will be at least 330W/hour if something is permanently on, so it will do the job.0
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... the meter uses whole units, no decimal places, so we'd have to watch it to see when it changed and then start the test - so not ideal, or probably very accurate.
It would be accurate enough to diagnose a gross metering error. Yes it might take up to two hours, but if you're there all day?0
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