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    • Runningfast
    • By Runningfast 23rd May 19, 11:33 PM
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    Office software for a Mac
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    • 23rd May 19, 11:33 PM
    Office software for a Mac 23rd May 19 at 11:33 PM
    Hi can anyone recommend an office package for a MAC that is on par with Microsoft Office

    Yes I know Office is available for the Mac but a few of the programmes I need such as Publisher and Access don't come with the Mac version.

    A bit reluctant to pay for Office when I will need to purchase other programmes to fill the void.

    Yes, I also know the Mac has pages, numbers etc. But to be frank (in my opinion) they are poor versions of their MS equivalents.

    Thanks
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    • Andy L
    • By Andy L 24th May 19, 7:48 AM
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    • 24th May 19, 7:48 AM
    Hi can anyone recommend an office package for a MAC that is on par with Microsoft Office

    Yes I know Office is available for the Mac but a few of the programmes I need such as Publisher and Access don't come with the Mac version.

    A bit reluctant to pay for Office when I will need to purchase other programmes to fill the void.

    Yes, I also know the Mac has pages, numbers etc. But to be frank (in my opinion) they are poor versions of their MS equivalents.

    Thanks
    Originally posted by Runningfast
    I suspect you're likely to think the same of all the other options.
    Libre Office
    Google Docs, sheets, draw etc

    When you say you need Access do you just need "a database package" or do you need to run existing Access databases?
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 24th May 19, 7:51 AM
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    • 24th May 19, 7:51 AM
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    • 24th May 19, 7:51 AM
    Reviews state that Word does the bulk of what Publisher on PC does anyway, it seems to have fallen out of favour anyway recently and seems just to be making up the numbers in the Office package, can't remember the last time it had any major work/functionality added to it, probably 2010?

    With regards to Access, this might be worth a look:
    https://eggerapps.at/mdbviewer/docs/en/access-alternatives-on-mac-os.html

    The other alternative to all of these is Apache Openoffice which is free download, but last time I played with the Windows equivalent, the Database wasn't particularly intuitive if you're already used to Access.
    • knightstyle
    • By knightstyle 24th May 19, 10:46 AM
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    • 24th May 19, 10:46 AM
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    • 24th May 19, 10:46 AM
    I have used NeoOffice on my macs for years. You can use it as a simple word processor or a more sophisticated table, spreadsheet etc.
    It is very easy to add pics to a document.
    Just make sure you set the spellchecker to UK English though.

    Just to add it is easy to change the doc to .docX when sending to people who use word and other formats.
    Last edited by knightstyle; 24-05-2019 at 10:49 AM. Reason: add a bit
    • stragglebod
    • By stragglebod 24th May 19, 11:27 AM
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    • 24th May 19, 11:27 AM
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    • 24th May 19, 11:27 AM
    Have you ever used Publisher? It's a miserable experience.

    As long as you don't need to flow a story split into multiple locations you're far better off using Word.
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 24th May 19, 6:22 PM
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    • 24th May 19, 6:22 PM
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    • 24th May 19, 6:22 PM
    Just to add it is easy to change the doc to .docX when sending to people who use word and other formats.
    Originally posted by knightstyle
    Why do you need to go from doc to docx? Word can open .doc files and saves in docx unless you tell it otherwise.
    • stragglebod
    • By stragglebod 25th May 19, 11:45 AM
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    • 25th May 19, 11:45 AM
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    • 25th May 19, 11:45 AM
    Because .doc files could contain malicious VBA macros, whereas .docx files can't contain macros at all.


    Nobody with any sense would open a .doc file from an unknown source.


    docx files are also generally smaller, and allow you to use document features introduce in 2007 and beyond.


    Really, there's hardly any situation where saving a Word document to doc is a good idea. Same for xls too.
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 25th May 19, 2:16 PM
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    • 25th May 19, 2:16 PM
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    • 25th May 19, 2:16 PM
    Because .doc files could contain malicious VBA macros, whereas .docx files can't contain macros at all.
    Originally posted by stragglebod
    Yes they can.

    Save your files as RTF (Rich Text Format) files and that guarantees nothing can travel with them.

    Nobody with any sense would open a .doc file from an unknown source.
    Nobody with any sense would open ANYTHING from an unknown source. Not just Word files.
    • stragglebod
    • By stragglebod 25th May 19, 3:38 PM
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    • 25th May 19, 3:38 PM
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    • 25th May 19, 3:38 PM
    Yes they can.
    Originally posted by Neil Jones
    No they can't. You'd need to save the document as a .dotm file. So it you see a .docx you know - no macros.
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 26th May 19, 6:45 PM
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    No they can't. You'd need to save the document as a .dotm file. So it you see a .docx you know - no macros.
    Originally posted by stragglebod
    With all due respect I don't think you know what you're talking about.

    Can I present yourself with this, one .doc file with an embedded macro:
    http://www3.safenet-inc.com/csrt/esafe-demo/HTTPMacro/HTTPMacro.html
    (macro attempts to generate a file on desktop, that's all it tries to do)

    And a .dotm file for your information is a Word Template with Macro capability (not necessarily present). Whereas as I wrote an Rich Text Format file cannot contain a macro and therefore is more secure.
    • stragglebod
    • By stragglebod 26th May 19, 10:20 PM
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    With all due respect I don't think you know what you're talking about.

    Can I present yourself with this, one .doc file with an embedded macro:
    http://www3.safenet-inc.com/csrt/esafe-demo/HTTPMacro/HTTPMacro.html
    (macro attempts to generate a file on desktop, that's all it tries to do)
    Originally posted by Neil Jones
    Exactly. doc files can contain macros, docx files can't. Like I said.

    And a .dotm file for your information is a Word Template with Macro capability (not necessarily present). Whereas as I wrote an Rich Text Format file cannot contain a macro and therefore is more secure.
    Originally posted by Neil Jones
    My bad, I meant to type docm.


    So, I make an error by one letter and it seems I don't know what I'm talking about. You make an error by one letter, so I guess you don't know what you're talking about either?
    • tempus_fugit
    • By tempus_fugit 27th May 19, 12:48 AM
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    Stragglebod is right, if you save as a .docx then macros won't work. I know this because I have tried to save one as such in error in the past.
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