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kenzie123
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Hello
Not sure where to put this post so please advise if it's in the wrong forum....
We bought a house last year which faces another house side on. So their wall is directly opposite our front window. It's currently a small brick wall all around their property so our view is not obscured.
It was recently sold and the new owners bought to rent.
I randomly bumped into the new owners measuring the walls so asked why, and they casually explained that they are planning to put a new wooden fence up all around their house, 1.8m / 6ft high. He mumbled something about planning permission but it was very clear he had no intention of asking me or our neighbours about it, or even just informing us.
I want some advice on what our rights are here - can they do this without permission from us?
The fence will have a definite impact on our view onto the street and obstruct natural light getting into our kitchen. It will also have an impact on selling potential in the future but I have been informed this isn't something that the council will take into consideration when making a decision.
I have had a look at the planning website for the council and no plans have been submitted as of yet. Is there anything I can do from now to prepare contesting this? They don't live at the property so we can't speak to them directly.
Thanks in advance
Not sure where to put this post so please advise if it's in the wrong forum....
We bought a house last year which faces another house side on. So their wall is directly opposite our front window. It's currently a small brick wall all around their property so our view is not obscured.
It was recently sold and the new owners bought to rent.
I randomly bumped into the new owners measuring the walls so asked why, and they casually explained that they are planning to put a new wooden fence up all around their house, 1.8m / 6ft high. He mumbled something about planning permission but it was very clear he had no intention of asking me or our neighbours about it, or even just informing us.
I want some advice on what our rights are here - can they do this without permission from us?
The fence will have a definite impact on our view onto the street and obstruct natural light getting into our kitchen. It will also have an impact on selling potential in the future but I have been informed this isn't something that the council will take into consideration when making a decision.
I have had a look at the planning website for the council and no plans have been submitted as of yet. Is there anything I can do from now to prepare contesting this? They don't live at the property so we can't speak to them directly.
Thanks in advance
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Is planning permission required for a 6 foot high boundary?
Whose boundary is it?0 -
If either building is listed or in a conservation area then planning consent might be required, and you would be entitled to object. Whether your objection would lead to refusal would depend on the grounds for objection, and the council's view on whether your rights outweigh the neighbour's rights.I randomly bumped into the new owners measuring the walls so asked why, and they casually explained that they are planning to put a new wooden fence up all around their house, 1.8m / 6ft high. He mumbled something about planning permission but it was very clear he had no intention of asking me or our neighbours about it, or even just informing us.
If not listed or a conservation area, then does either property have a planning condition in relation to the form (height and type) of boundary?
If no, then your last hope might be any restrictive covenants on your neighbour's property. Were they built at the same time?"In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"0 -
He does not need to inform you or the neighbours (though it is polite to do so).Hello
......they are planning to put a new wooden fence up all around their house, 1.8m / 6ft high. He mumbled something about planning permission but it was very clear he had no intention of asking me or our neighbours about it, or even just informing us.
If Planning Permission is applied for, the council will notify affected nearby residences and place a notice on a nearby lamp post and in the local paper.
* is the fence on a boundary next to a highway used by vehicles? If yes, PP is needed.
* is the property listed or next to a listed building? Or in a conservation area? If yes, PP is needed.
* has a planning restriction been placed on the property? If yes, PP is needed.
* is there a covenant in the Deeds prohibiting a fence? If yes, a fence cannot be erected.
https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/20/fences_gates_and_garden_walls0 -
Planning permission appears to be needed for a fence over 1 metre high next to a road if that applies. You could contact your local planning enforcement dept and object if this applies. https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/20/fences_gates_and_garden_walls0
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I randomly bumped into the new owners measuring the walls so asked why, and they casually explained that they are planning to put a new wooden fence up all around their house, 1.8m / 6ft high. He mumbled something about planning permission but it was very clear he had no intention of asking me or our neighbours about it, or even just informing us.
If you are not too late, why not offer to pay and erect a slightly shorter fence. The fence may be well intentioned, to stop the renters bothering you and neighbours.0 -
A 1.8m boundary fence between two properties is usually a possibility, unless special conditions operate, as already described by GM and Each Penny.
That's the legal situation and even if the local authority were involved in granting permission, they might not contact you personally.
There's no hint in your post, but I wonder whether you properly raised your concerns when the landlord started mumbling about planning permission.
Irrespective of the legal position, communication may be the key here, as it's in the landlord's best interest not to cause undue friction with the neighbours. If he is really going for PP, you have time to write and explain things from your point of view. Perhaps you can meet each other half way?0 -
Seems a long time sine I mentioned tea and cake!....
Irrespective of the legal position, communication may be the key here, as it's in the landlord's best interest not to cause undue friction with the neighbours. If he is really going for PP, you have time to write and explain things from your point of view. Perhaps you can meet each other half way?0
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