PCN on private land, what are my options?

Dinar · 14 February 2018 at 9:10PM

Cheers mate, I get the gist of it!

Dinar · 19 February 2018 at 6:38PM

Hi guys,

I just got a reply from NSGL Parking - they did not provide me with a code and have said that I must provide the name and address of the driver (which I have not and will not give). I felt their reply to be overall rather unsatisfactory:

gyazo com/a9d5286146cf68e1c22211d9b5296882 (can't post full links, sorry!)

From reading around, I've found that my best move now is to just wait out the 35 days until a POPLA code is provided. Is there anything else I can do?

KeithP · 19 February 2018 at 6:47PM

Dinar wrote: »

I just got a reply from NSGL Parking - they did not provide me with a code and have said that I must provide the name and address of the driver (which I have not and will not give). I felt their reply to be overall rather unsatisfactory:

gyazo com/a9d5286146cf68e1c22211d9b5296882 (can't post full links, sorry!)

From reading around, I've found that my best move now is to just wait out the 35 days until a POPLA code is provided. Is there anything else I can do?

https://gyazo.com/a9d5286146cf68e1c22211d9b5296882

That isn't what they said at all.

They state that they need to be able to process your data to ask you to name the driver and they will need to continue to process your data if you don't supply the name of the driver.

This is a standard response to your DPA Section 10 Notice that you sent them.

They go on to confirm they will respond to your appeal within the 35 days allowed.

Dinar · 19 February 2018 at 7:00PM

KeithP wrote: »

That isn't what they said at all.

They state that they need to be able to process your data to ask you to name the driver and they will need to continue to process your data if you don't supply the name of the driver.

This is a standard response to your DPA Section 10 Notice that you sent them.

They go on to confirm they will respond to your appeal within the 35 days allowed.

Oh right sorry, I'm not used to the wording. So I guess I just wait it out now?

Dinar · 10 April 2018 at 8:20PM

Hi there, I received my POPLA code last month and only now (not realising today was the last day to submit) have written up the appeal. It basically a copy paste of all the points except the "No Keeper Liability (windscreen ticket, no follow on NtK) ". Would those points be sufficient given my case (i.e. my own parking space)?

P.S. I've gotten hold of the lease and there was nothing regarding any permits or even NSGL.

Fruitcake · 10 April 2018 at 9:24PM

Dinar wrote: »

Hi there, I received my POPLA code last month and only now (not realising today was the last day to submit) have written up the appeal. It basically a copy paste of all the points except the "No Keeper Liability (windscreen ticket, no follow on NtK) ". Would those points be sufficient given my case (i.e. my own parking space)?

P.S. I've gotten hold of the lease and there was nothing regarding any permits or even NSGL.

A PoPLA code lasts for 32 days, so if today is day 28 you have time to post your draft here for the regulars to check.
This should be the next thing you do.
Are you sure the NTK is POFA 2012 complaint? There aren't many scammers who know how to get this right.

I suggest you post a redacted copy here as well as your PoPLA draft.

Once the experts here have breathed on it you will still have time to submit it before he code expires.

Coupon-mad · 10 April 2018 at 9:25PM

You do have 32 days so what date was it issued? Don't rush if it's only day 28!

(windscreen ticket, no follow on NtK)

Eh? Your first post said you got a NTK in February. Show it to us, please, both sides.

P.S. I've gotten hold of the lease and there was nothing regarding any permits or even NSGL.

Think about it, don't you agree that's a good thing?!

And have you got the permit now, and any useful emails from the MA apologising for why you were missed?

KeithP · 10 April 2018 at 9:32PM

Why didn't you use 'no keeper liability'?

That would've been a sure fire winner if the NtK was issued too late.

You really should have reacted, and started on your PoPLA appeal, when you first appeal was refused - but of course you know that.

What was the outcome from your complaint to the management company?

Dinar · 10 April 2018 at 11:15PM

It was issued on the 13th of March (NSGL said I had 28 days to reply). NTK Front and Back:

gyazo com/ab5ef1db956a4c5a71250614926f42a4
gyazo com/4cbf4fd20319221348ef4dfeb2389168

I do apologise about the bad quality images!

Also, I was actively searching for lack of information regarding NSGL as that could possibly grant me immunity (I think).

Coupon-mad · 11 April 2018 at 12:17AM

https://gyazo.com/ab5ef1db956a4c5a71250614926f42a4

Hmm, quite surprising that NTK, it's likely to be held compliant by POPLA, IMHO, despite the fact there is no actual 'period of parking' stated. Which is something & nothing to POPLA.

have you got the permit now, and any useful emails from the MA apologising for why you were missed?

Get proof, to show that you were never issued with a permit and that your tenancy agreement granted you the right to park/2 spaces/the communal area with/without a vehicle (if it does?).

Otherwise, who told you and what was given in writing that mentioned parking? Show us the thing that granted you this:

I'm allowed two parking spaces by the actual management company of the complex.

You can't have imagined it so it must have been confirmed somewhere?

PCN on private land, what are my options?

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