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Perhaps you aren't going to be able to be a stay at home dad living hand to mouth for a while. You may need to take on evening, night, or weekend work for a bit to cover this. Fancying not working isn't going to cut it as a reason not to pay.0
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so youre saying hmrc are infallable and i should just accept them saying i owe them £5k after 14 years with no previous contact?
i take issue with the income point raised. my partner has income and claims tax credits, i have no income.
garth, it's nothing to do with 'fancying not working' it's simple economics. my partner can earn more than me, a parent needs to bring up our child. whats the point of having her if we're just going to farm her out to other people to bring her up while we work?0 -
i dont think i'm out of order asking for info from them. as i said, there was a claim around that time, but as far as i knew there was no overpayment. i can accept i did not discharge my responsibilites by informing hmrc i had moved and the relationship had ended, but my ex partner had, surely they dont need both people to do it?0
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hedgemonkey66 wrote: »so youre saying hmrc are infallable and i should just accept them saying i owe them £5k after 14 years with no previous contact?
i take issue with the income point raised. my partner has income and claims tax credits, i have no income.
garth, it's nothing to do with 'fancying not working' it's simple economics. my partner can earn more than me, a parent needs to bring up our child. whats the point of having her if we're just going to farm her out to other people to bring her up while we work?
Presumably your partner is not working 168 hours a week? Garth suggested you look for evening night or weekend work, times when your partner could provide childcare.
As for "farming your child out", preschool care enables children to learn to socialise and prepares them for full time school - even part time, these are beneficial to the child's development.0 -
You can ask for info all you want however as said previously, all they need to do is prove that at least once you were sent an awards notice or letter. It is too late for you to take any dispute/appeal action.
For an overpayment of over £4,000 to occur then there must have been some delay in your ex-partner notifying them of the change or appropriate paperwork was not completed.
Your comment about farming children out is also very offensive. I have a child and I work. Just because someone takes care of him for a few days a week does not mean someone else is bringing up my child. I pride myself in having a career and setting a good example for my son by working hard to provide for him.0 -
i found it very offensive to be accused of 'fancying not working'. my views on raising my child are not really relevant here.
i value your knowledge however. as i have not yet posted the letter i have written them, what would you suggest? i have no issue in repaying anything i actually owe, once i am in a position to do so, but would like to know how they came to that figure, i don't think that's too much to ask, after 14 years....0 -
hedgemonkey66 wrote: »whats the point of having her if we're just going to farm her out to other people to bring her up while we work?
Some people may ask why have a child if you cannot support them, that's simple economics as well. If everyone used your logic there would be no money to support all these children.
My partner used to do a few days a week and i would work night's. Surely you could find something around your partner's hours?0 -
hedgemonkey66 wrote: »i found it very offensive to be accused of 'fancying not working'. my views on raising my child are not really relevant here.
i value your knowledge however. as i have not yet posted the letter i have written them, what would you suggest? i have no issue in repaying anything i actually owe, once i am in a position to do so, but would like to know how they came to that figure, i don't think that's too much to ask, after 14 years....
Nobody is saying you can't ask or that you shouldn't ask - what we're trying to do is explain how things work and where you sit legally.
It was a joint claim. Legally they can ask you for the full amount, but they have a policy which says they will recover 50%. All they need to show, as DS already said, is that you were sent a Section 29(3) notice which would have been when the claim finished.
It doesn't matter whether they left it for 14 years or not really, they don't have to explain themselves at this stage and you don't have any legal recourse because you are out of time for both disputes and appeals even if you do get an explanation.
Write to them and ask for information - but at the same time you should be speaking to them about repayment of the debt because if you don't then they can take enforcement action in the form of distraint (bailiffs) and as it is for a significant sum it is possible they will do this. To avoid this, speaking to them and explaining your financial situation and coming to an arrangement is the best thing to do whilst pursuing the answers you want.
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so arrange a temporary repayment plan, accepting no liability, of 50%, paying out of my partners income, while further info is obtained. obviously if it turns out there is an error they would refund any monies paid. seems a sensible solution for the way things stand at present.0
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You won't be able to do anything even if there is an error because you are out of time for any disputes or appeals.0
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