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  • FreeBear
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    NewShadow wrote: »
    If that's the 'wrong' type of boiler then the plan would be to replace it with the 'right' kind and, if required, look into fitting larger/more radiators...


    My bad - I probably missed that image in the collection of other pictures. As the boiler is fairly new, you won't need to do anything to it or the radiators. That will save you a good chunk of money ;)
    Still curious to know what the boxing in on the side of the chimneybreast is for though..
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  • NewShadow
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    FreeBear wrote: »
    My bad - I probably missed that image in the collection of other pictures. As the boiler is fairly new, you won't need to do anything to it or the radiators. That will save you a good chunk of money ;)
    Still curious to know what the boxing in on the side of the chimneybreast is for though..

    Thank you for the assurance :)

    I guess it's possible they didn't remove the old back boiler - assuming there was one - promise to let you know if/when I find out :p

    I get the impression a lot of the work was done via grant/the council in the last couple of years because the couple who lived in the house were elderly and not very well/mobile - a grant might have installed the radiators new boiler, but would it have removed the old fittings?


    So... I've been having a look around at some quotes - only thing I'm struggling to put a price around is the platform lift and if any money I could get for it would counter the cost of making the front 'good'...

    Two questions:

    * Would you agree it's reasonable to budget in the region of £7k for the needed work - thinking skips, fire, roof and chimney check plus assuming 'some' work, and a minor but unspecified damp problem? i.e. not assuming there's a problem with the roof and damp but allowing c£3k as reasonable contingency against the unknown/subject to survey.

    * Would you think an offer of £130k - so around 96% of asking price - would be unreasonable as an offer? I'd need to be around £130-132 if I'm allocating the budgets above plus a structural survey, plus fees. There haven't been many sold in the area recently and I'm not sure those which have sold are all that comparable...
    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

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    Next Step: Bathroom renovation booked for January 2021
    Goal: Keep the bigger picture in mind...
  • diggingdude
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    I lived in the Junction for 4 months when my Bangor Uni halls got condemned around the turn of the century. I liked the area, hope you enjoy wherever you end up
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  • getmore4less
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    If you do buy it I would invest in a good hedge trimmer and a shredder early on and give all the hedges a good hard trim back you will get a few feet back and they might look rough for a season but will recover by summer 2.

    Get it done early so nature can start its job.

    Will save a skip/trips to tip by reduced volume or just start a compost heap, you have a big enough garden to do that.
  • markin
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    The seems to be almost No sockets, So budget for a lot of electrical work, And likely the cost of a full rewire.

    And at lest 1 radiator needs moving to under the window.

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  • FreeBear
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    markin wrote: »
    The seems to be almost No sockets, So budget for a lot of electrical work, And likely the cost of a full rewire.

    And at lest 1 radiator needs moving to under the window.


    It is easy to see why that radiator is located where it is - There is a single socket in the middle of the wall. New sockets (and extras) along with a rewire is certainly on the cards. That is the sort of job that needs to be done before moving in. Chasing in for the cabling is very messy, and the plaster would need to be patched up afterwards. In all, that could eat up most of the £7K budget.


    When considering how much to offer, have a look across the other side of Marl Drive - Very similar house is on the market for £140K. Looks to be in slightly better condition, but without the original features.
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  • Skiddaw1
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    For what it is worth I like the house too. I think it has bags of potential. It's a good size, the rooms are a nice shape, it has original features and a proper sized garden. I do hope it works out OP- I can really understand why it grabs you.
  • Smodlet
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    Hi again, NewShadow. Yep, that tiny, little box looks exactly like the leccy meter we had to have when we got solar panels so it is a modern one. The CS and boiler look bang up to date.

    If you wanted to replace radiators with more effective ones, you could consider doubles or even double-doubles: They jut out a couple of inches more but, depending on the size you choose, could take up less wall space than the singles already in place while still chucking out appreciably more heat.

    I absolutely second FreeBear's advice about re-wiring in an ideal world. I have lived through two full re-wires and it is not fun; having said which, many of us do not have the luxury of staying in a hotel or paying rent whilst paying a mortgage on a place they do not live in. If you do, I recommend it.

    If it has been re-wired, the vendors must have been given paperwork to prove it. You could get a report from an electrician but they tend to cost £100's; cheaper just to ask the vendors. If they don't know when it was done and have been there for decades, you can be fairly confident the place would benefit from a re-wire.

    Sorry, that still looks as if it could be a non-standard house to me but I don't know the area at all so what do I know? If the section under the damp course is definitely brick (bit hard for me to see from the pics, sorry) and the render is proud, it is probably of brick construction.

    I really just wanted to wish you luck with it all and to thank you for sharing your pics with us. :)
  • NewShadow
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    edited 19 January 2020 at 8:04PM
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    Smodlet wrote: »
    I really just wanted to wish you luck with it all and to thank you for sharing your pics with us. :)
    And thank you - all - for continuing to share your advice :)
    FreeBear wrote: »
    It is easy to see why that radiator is located where it is - There is a single socket in the middle of the wall. New sockets (and extras) along with a rewire is certainly on the cards. That is the sort of job that needs to be done before moving in. Chasing in for the cabling is very messy, and the plaster would need to be patched up afterwards. In all, that could eat up most of the £7K budget.

    When considering how much to offer, have a look across the other side of Marl Drive - Very similar house is on the market for £140K. Looks to be in slightly better condition, but without the original features.

    There are loads of sockets in the kitchen, but I agree a dearth elsewhere in the house.

    Is the wiring something that would be picked up in a structural survey?

    I mean...:

    - I've got a broker;
    - I've got a quote from a local solicitor that I think I'm happy with;
    - I've contact details of a local RICS surveyor but yet to reach out for a quote
    - I've got what feels like a fair offer based on the estimates... but that doesn't include rewiring.

    Is my next step to phone up/email the surveyor and ask for a quote and would it be inappropriate to ask that he give a recommendation re: the electrics?

    Or am I getting ahead of myself and the thing I need to do right now is focus on agreeing a price 'subject to survey'?

    The seller has said the boiler/windows and the like are 2 years old - and a friend of the family has told me it's a 'split board consumer unit and that means it must have been put in since the 90's'

    I've viewed both of the houses opposite - plus two others in the vicinity, inc one that's almost identical but 'move in ready', and I've got three lined up to view in a week or so - and I honestly don't think any of them have the potential of this house... given I'm looking for a forever home - if I can get a good grasp of the required work and make sure I don't overextend myself/get carried away wanting it, so I can pay for it!
    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

    House Bought July 2020 - 19 years 0 months remaining on term
    Next Step: Bathroom renovation booked for January 2021
    Goal: Keep the bigger picture in mind...
  • AdrianC
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    NewShadow wrote: »
    Is the wiring something that would be picked up in a structural survey?
    No. No survey will do anything but say "I'm not a sparky. Get a specialist report if you're worried" - same for boiler, plumbing, damp...

    However, if that consumer unit was fitted after Part P came in in 2005, then the electrics would have been fully checked at the time. There should be a copy of that report.

    The slightly peely silver sticker seems to have a 7/12/2017 "checked and all OK" date on, with a suggested next check due in Dec 2027.
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