TSB likely to be fined £400m by FSA .. but 'who' really pays?

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Some report about 'what went wrong' in Apil '18 is coming out today. rumours are that a big fine from the FCA is coming soon.


My generic question is in the title: when a regulated 'High Street' brand name gets a fine for basic stupidity where does this money



a) come from? (Bye bye 3% on current a/cs?)


b) go to? (Cocaine and Hookers on the top floor of FCA)?


It' has bothered me since 2000 how 'misselling' of endowments was addressed (through a Peter to Paul transfer from one set of customers who did nothing worng to another that were 'mis-sold') as well as the Equitable case (1999) when again ppl that had done nothing wrong besides investing in a mutual where given the bill of a decsion (this time House of Lords)


So 'follow' the money here: is a fine like this needed to fund some lavish lifestyles behind the scenes or does it go into a 'widows and orphans' scheme (same thing really)?
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    It's the same as any business cost. It will come from a combination of hitting profits, cost cutting and increasing customer costs.

    It all depends on what the market and the business will bear. Increases in the cost to the customer or reduction of benefits can generate cash but will also impact sales and retention so it all has to be balanced out.
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    edited 19 November 2019 at 11:27AM
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    Milarky wrote: »
    Some report about 'what went wrong' in Apil '18 is coming out today. rumours are that a big fine from the FCA is coming soon.


    My generic question is in the title: when a regulated 'High Street' brand name gets a fine for basic stupidity where does this money



    a) come from? (Bye bye 3% on current a/cs?)


    b) go to? (Cocaine and Hookers on the top floor of FCA)?


    It' has bothered me since 2000 how 'misselling' of endowments was addressed (through a Peter to Paul transfer from one set of customers who did nothing worng to another that were 'mis-sold') as well as the Equitable case (1999) when again ppl that had done nothing wrong besides investing in a mutual where given the bill of a decsion (this time House of Lords)


    So 'follow' the money here: is a fine like this needed to fund some lavish lifestyles behind the scenes or does it go into a 'widows and orphans' scheme (same thing really)?

    A major TSB outage that left two million customers of the UK bank without current account access last year was due to a failure to test a new data center.


    In an inquiry by Slaughter and May, set to be released on Tuesday but seen by Sky News, the law firm concluded that the decision to proceed with a massive IT migration when only one of the data centers had been tested "made it impossible to identify the problems" with the new system.


    Only testing one facility was a choice made by Sabis, the IT services arm of Sabadell, TSB's Spanish owner, a source told Sky. This may have been done to avoid interrupting ATM services, but it is not clear if the interruption would have been significant.


    The fact that one of the data centers was not tested was concealed from board members ahead of the new system going live in April 2018, the 300-page report will state. Carlos Abarca, the bank's chief information officer at the time, was among those aware, however.


    "The underlying issues related to some aspects of three key interconnected issues - the initial configuration, the capacity of the infrastructure and also some aspects of coding," the report will state.


    TSB has had to pay nearly £370m ($480m) in "post-migration charges" as a result of the prolonged outage, including for the £25m ($32m) investigation. Costs could increase if regulators fine the business.


    CEO Paul Pester lost his job after the outage, while other senior executives lost bonus pay. Current CEO Debbie Crosbie is expected to announce substantial job cuts and branch closures.
    Source: https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/news/major-tsb-banking-outage-be-blamed-failure-test-data-center-ahead-it-migration/

    Since April 2012, the money collected from FCA fines has gone to the Treasury. From there, some of the money is used to benefit charities.

    The most recent information on this I can find from the FCA is in it's 2013-14 business plan, which shows that some of the funds raised was accounted for in its own annual funding requirement.
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