TSB launches refund guarantee for fraud victims - MSE News
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JuicyJesus wrote: »This is going to be an absolute magnet for first party fraud and I can almost guarantee that this will get walked back very quickly.0
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A slight tangent to the issue here.
Because scams can involve criminals posing as your bank, isn't there a case for implementing something that British Gas did many years ago for gas engineers visiting customers. Customers would ask them for a password (which they had previously set with British Gas). If the engineer didn't know it, they would be refused entry. Surely we could do the same with banking such that when our bank calls us, we can take them through security first and then we can answer their security questions afterwards.0 -
A PR exercise in light of their recent IT meltdowns0
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Terry_Towelling wrote: »A slight tangent to the issue here.
Because scams can involve criminals posing as your bank, isn't there a case for implementing something that British Gas did many years ago for gas engineers visiting customers. Customers would ask them for a password (which they had previously set with British Gas). If the engineer didn't know it, they would be refused entry. Surely we could do the same with banking such that when our bank calls us, we can take them through security first and then we can answer their security questions afterwards.
Some banks do allow you to set up a phone password the bank must give you when calling you. I think I'd still insist on calling them back after ensuring the line was cleared down.0 -
Terry_Towelling wrote: »A slight tangent to the issue here.
Because scams can involve criminals posing as your bank, isn't there a case for implementing something that British Gas did many years ago for gas engineers visiting customers. Customers would ask them for a password (which they had previously set with British Gas). If the engineer didn't know it, they would be refused entry. Surely we could do the same with banking such that when our bank calls us, we can take them through security first and then we can answer their security questions afterwards.
Problem with that is, before they've taken you through security they don't know who you are and as far as they're concerned they could be giving "your" password to a total random.urs sinserly,
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JuicyJesus wrote: »Problem with that is, before they've taken you through security they don't know who you are and as far as they're concerned they could be giving "your" password to a total random.0
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If a TSB customer withdraws £200 from an ATM and hands it to a fraudster are they covered by the guarantee? I can't see anything in their info which suggests they aren't.0
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verybigchris wrote: »If a TSB customer withdraws £200 from an ATM and hands it to a fraudster are they covered by the guarantee? I can't see anything in their info which suggests they aren't.0
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JuicyJesus wrote: »Problem with that is, before they've taken you through security they don't know who you are and as far as they're concerned they could be giving "your" password to a total random.0
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JuicyJesus wrote: »Problem with that is, before they've taken you through security they don't know who you are and as far as they're concerned they could be giving "your" password to a total random.
Fair point - back to the drawing board.:)
That said, it is not the 'total random' that we have to guard against; it is the person with criminal intent who happens to be on the genuine account holder's landline or in possession of their mobile phone at the time of an incoming call from their bank - which I accept could happen.
If that criminal gets hold of your password they could then pose as your bank, call you up and pass your security. The fact that they could pass your security wouldn't make any given fraud more likely than if your security step didn't exist, but it might make you drop your guard completely and share your private details more openly - and that would be a very bad thing.0
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