Venturing Out of the Vault (of Debt)

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Pip_Boy_111
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edited 28 March 2019 at 2:09PM in Debt free diaries
Hi all. After a suggestion to start a diary in my first thread here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5983080

I have decided to start a diary to both motivate myself and record achievements (and errors) in my journey to debt free-ness. First off, some may notice on the original thread that the debt figure has increased to what I originally posted. Hold off on the wagging fingers people, I haven't spent more on credit, I had simply put what was left to pay on my loan account and missed off adding in the other debts (it's been edited to reflect the true figure now). This hasn't changed my debt free target date (I simply read the wrong line of my spreadsheet) :rotfl:

Anyway, to the figures. Debts remaining as of 27/3/2019:
HSBC personal loan: £21,212.36p
Barclaycard: £3432.24p (currently on a 0% deal and aiming to clear before the end of this)
HSBC Advance Overdraft: £800
Total Debt Remaining: £25,444.60p

As I said in the original thread, this figure has come down from around £30,000 :eek: (I don't have exact figures because my new-found organisational prowess had not yet developed, not that it matters too much now).
Now the rambling. After the fantastic advice received from various posters (in particular Sanctioned Parts List, shout out :beer:) I have decided to curtail the emergency fund saving and use the money to pay down debts instead. The Barclay card has a £4000 limit so there is a buffer there in the event of an emergency. in the event of no emergency, the debt is paid quicker. MATHS!:T
This diary will be about facts, figures and general ramblings to keep myself motivated and on track. Comments are most welcome, and if anyone spots me being financially stupid or has suggestions to make this process better, please feel free to speak up and chastise/congratulate/educate.

Today: After a late rise after night shift, and several strong coffees, have sat down and worked through online banking and spreadsheets. The spreadsheets match the bank to within 2p WIN :j DW salary is paid tomorrow so have "tidied" what's left in the spends account and paid the princely sum of £11.66 towards the Barclaycard. Tomorrow will pay another £50 off the overdraft (they only let you reduce in a minimum of £50 increments :mad:). The budget is set for the next 2 weeks (until I get paid again) and all is looking positive. My payday is when most of the DFW action happens so tune in then for more edge of the seat, debt busting action!:rotfl:

Todays ramblings: Is it sad that I eagerly await wages? Not to spend, spend, spend anymore, but to pay another chunk of debt off and watch the spreadsheet figure tumble? It's become almost like a game now. Since the LBM I have a different view of life. I now see that having the latest of everything is actually pointless for the most part. For example, part of the long standing debt is an iPhone from years ago. I "had" to have it. The phone is long dead but the debt is still there, bundled amongst the other pounds borrowed for instant gratification. I spent last Saturday playing with the kids in the sunshine and had free cake (with vouchers) and made a homemade "takeaway" for tea. Total spend £0 (aside from the obvious shopping bill earlier in the month but let's not get picky :p). We had a fantastic day and the memories and photographs from such a simple thing will last forever. Maybe our parents weren't old and boring, maybe, just maybe, they were right all along...……...
Debts 14/6/2019 (LBM 5/3/2019)
Overdraft: [STRIKE]£900[/STRIKE]/£0:T Barclaycard: [STRIKE]£3755.55[/STRIKE]/£2859.42 Loan: [STRIKE]£21620.29[/STRIKE]/£17997.19
Total[STRIKE] £26275.84[/STRIKE] £20856.61 (REDUCED BY 20.62%)
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  • [Deleted User]
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    Happy new diary - following along with your journey :D x
  • Sanctioned_Parts_List
    Sanctioned_Parts_List Posts: 491 Forumite
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    edited 27 March 2019 at 6:50PM
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    For example, part of the long standing debt is an iPhone from years ago. I "had" to have it. The phone is long dead but the debt is still there, bundled amongst the other pounds borrowed for instant gratification.
    When finishing up my dissertation at uni, I bought a new computer. I paid about £1250 for it at the time, on a credit card. By the time I paid that thing off, it had cost me roughly £2970.50.

    Exercise of the day, how much did that iPhone cost you finally? It's a pretty good way of putting a person off buying gadgets on credit, permanently :)
  • UncannyScot
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    Hello and welcome :D

    Another wasteland wanderer here, been a fan since the original PC game ;)

    You have a plan and you are following it through, you will get there.

    If you need any info, advice just post up and folks will help out.
    If you are ok with doing so a good idea would be to do / post up a Statement Of Affairs (S.O.A) so you can see where all your income and outgoings are and hopefully where possible savings can be made.

    Look forward to following you on your journey
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    R.I.P. T.P.
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    Happy shiny new diary.
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  • Pip_Boy_111
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    Hello and welcome :D

    Another wasteland wanderer here, been a fan since the original PC game ;)

    You have a plan and you are following it through, you will get there.

    If you need any info, advice just post up and folks will help out.
    If you are ok with doing so a good idea would be to do / post up a Statement Of Affairs (S.O.A) so you can see where all your income and outgoings are and hopefully where possible savings can be made.

    Look forward to following you on your journey

    Fallout 3 was my first taste of life after the bombs fell. Must say New Vegas has been my favourite so far. Such an immersive world. :D

    As I said, I don't wish to post a SOA purely for the fact that i already implement a LOT of MSE approved methods (a*di shops, no loyalty with energy/insurance etc, snowballing, you get the picture). We are extremely fortunate in that we are not in dire straits and have a good household income to be able to service these debts and still "live" a little. Although I have been in debt most of my adult life, my LBM came before the situation was too far gone. For that, I am eternally grateful to all on these boards. This is the resource that made me see that paying minimums every month does not mean it's all fine.

    I have declared war on debt. And remember....war never changes ;)
    Debts 14/6/2019 (LBM 5/3/2019)
    Overdraft: [STRIKE]£900[/STRIKE]/£0:T Barclaycard: [STRIKE]£3755.55[/STRIKE]/£2859.42 Loan: [STRIKE]£21620.29[/STRIKE]/£17997.19
    Total[STRIKE] £26275.84[/STRIKE] £20856.61 (REDUCED BY 20.62%)
  • UncannyScot
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    I have declared war on debt. And remember....war never changes ;)

    Indeed, war never changes ;)
    Keep fighting Brother
    BUGGRITMILLENIUMHANDANDSHRIMP I TOLD EM! - Foul Ole Ron
    It is important that we know where we come from, because if you do not know where you come from, then you do not know where you are, and if you don't know where you are, then you don't know where you are going. If you don't know where you're going, you're probably going wrong.
    R.I.P. T.P.
  • Pip_Boy_111
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    Last night shift in the bag. Strangely not sleepy so have been doing some stupidly early kitchen cleaning (with white vinegar of course :money:) to leave more time for a nap when the inevitable crash happens. DW's salary is in and £50 is heading through the world wide webs to bring the arranged overdraft down to £750 :T. Once everyone's out at work/school will sit down and update spreadsheets. I may do a SOA after all. I'm genuinely intrigued to see what figures it spits out and if it tallies with my own budgets.

    early morning ramblings light before i got home this morning. The birds are singing away by 0530 now. Spring is on the way:j
    Debts 14/6/2019 (LBM 5/3/2019)
    Overdraft: [STRIKE]£900[/STRIKE]/£0:T Barclaycard: [STRIKE]£3755.55[/STRIKE]/£2859.42 Loan: [STRIKE]£21620.29[/STRIKE]/£17997.19
    Total[STRIKE] £26275.84[/STRIKE] £20856.61 (REDUCED BY 20.62%)
  • Pip_Boy_111
    Pip_Boy_111 Posts: 185 Forumite
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    edited 28 March 2019 at 2:47PM
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    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 2
    Number of cars owned.................... 2

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 2950
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 388
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 3338


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 707.2
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 416.20000000000004
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 146
    Electricity............................. 58
    Gas..................................... 50
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 40.78
    Telephone (land line)................... 115.47
    Mobile phone............................ 0
    TV Licence.............................. 12.66
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 40.49
    Internet Services....................... 0
    Groceries etc. ......................... 257.95
    Clothing................................ 11.66
    Petrol/diesel........................... 50
    Road tax................................ 14.16
    Car Insurance........................... 35.41
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 14.58
    Car parking............................. 3
    Other travel............................ 8
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 17.08
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 10.41
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 13.61
    Contents insurance...................... 0
    Life assurance ......................... 50.27
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 35
    Haircuts................................ 9.25
    Entertainment........................... 237.98
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2355.16



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 176000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 24000
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 200000



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 141926...(707.2)....2.7
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 24879....(416.2)....6
    Total secured & HP debts...... 166805....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Barclaycard....................3429.83...90........0
    Overdraft......................750.......0.........16.6
    Total unsecured debts..........4179.83...90........-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 3,338
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,355.16
    Available for debt repayments........... 982.84
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 90
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 892.84


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 200,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -166,805
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -4,179.83
    Net Assets.............................. 29,015.17


    Created using the SOA calculator at https://www.stoozing.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.


    Ok, so here it is. Bear in mind some of these figures (such as presents) are best guesstimates based on 3 months worth of spend diaries. Weird seeing yearly and quarterly expenses broken into monthly amounts too! Certainly focussed the mind having to actively seek the information rather than knowing a "ballpark" figure for things like interest rates.

    Certainly quite a useful exercise and compared to some SOA's I've seen on here it makes me feel extremely fortunate to be able to enjoy some of things in the list and still be able to overpay the debt and enjoy some "luxuries".
    Anyway, there it is. My sleep deprived brain has managed to produce some semblance of a SOA. :T

    Ok so inmy sleep deprived state I have forgotten to add the biggest unsecured debt I have!!!:mad: Will try again with the loan added in.
    Debts 14/6/2019 (LBM 5/3/2019)
    Overdraft: [STRIKE]£900[/STRIKE]/£0:T Barclaycard: [STRIKE]£3755.55[/STRIKE]/£2859.42 Loan: [STRIKE]£21620.29[/STRIKE]/£17997.19
    Total[STRIKE] £26275.84[/STRIKE] £20856.61 (REDUCED BY 20.62%)
  • Pip_Boy_111
    Pip_Boy_111 Posts: 185 Forumite
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    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 2950
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 388
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 3338


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 707.2
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 416.20000000000004
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 146
    Electricity............................. 58
    Gas..................................... 50
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 40.78
    Telephone (land line)................... 115.47
    Mobile phone............................ 0
    TV Licence.............................. 12.66
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 40.49
    Internet Services....................... 0
    Groceries etc. ......................... 257.95
    Clothing................................ 11.66
    Petrol/diesel........................... 50
    Road tax................................ 14.16
    Car Insurance........................... 35.41
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 14.58
    Car parking............................. 3
    Other travel............................ 8
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 17.08
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 10.41
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 13.61
    Contents insurance...................... 0
    Life assurance ......................... 50.27
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 35
    Haircuts................................ 9.25
    Entertainment........................... 237.98
    Holiday................................. 41.66
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2396.82



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 176000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 24000
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 200000



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 141926...(707.2)....2.7
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 24879....(416.2)....6
    Total secured & HP debts...... 166805....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    LOAN...........................21212.3...407.9.....12.4
    Barclaycard....................3429.83...90........0
    Overdraft......................750.......0.........16.6
    Total unsecured debts..........25392.13..497.9.....-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 3,338
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,396.82
    Available for debt repayments........... 941.18
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 497.9
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 443.28


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 200,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -166,805
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -25,392.13
    Net Assets.............................. 7,802.87


    Created using the SOA calculator at https://www.stoozing.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.


    2nd attempt!! So the loan is at a higher interest rate than I thought :eek: The rate I was working with was the rate of an old loan before I "consolidated" :(
    For this reason alone it's been a worthwhile (if frustrating) task. TOP TIP: don't do this after a night shift :rotfl:
    With everything averaged into monthly payments the amount available for debt repayment seems lower than I have been paying but I suppose this is because some of the items on the list wouldn't be paid at all some months. This also doesn't include overtime and bonuses, which is another explanation why my overpayments are generally higher than what's stated on the form.
    Afternoon ramblings Need coffee, need coffee, need coffee, need zzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Debts 14/6/2019 (LBM 5/3/2019)
    Overdraft: [STRIKE]£900[/STRIKE]/£0:T Barclaycard: [STRIKE]£3755.55[/STRIKE]/£2859.42 Loan: [STRIKE]£21620.29[/STRIKE]/£17997.19
    Total[STRIKE] £26275.84[/STRIKE] £20856.61 (REDUCED BY 20.62%)
  • Sanctioned_Parts_List
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    Well done!

    Two questions:
    i) please tell me you're not trying to track expenses to 14 decimal places? I'm not sure quite how you'd manage £0.00000000000004 without using a metal file :rotfl:
    ii) That phone bill... um, is that broadband and BT Sport?
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