We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Son has mental health problems doesn’t want benefits

2

Comments

  • skcollobcat10
    skcollobcat10 Posts: 331 Forumite
    xXMessedUpXx wrote: »
    Just a word of warning, mental health care varies very much, for example in my area despite having bipolar, signs of psychosis, thoughts of self harm and suicide i have been refused access to the mental health team as i "don't meet the criteria" (in other words unless you make an actual attempt on your life you have zero chance of help). Hopefully for the OP it will be better there but be prepared to fight for it.

    I feel really sorry that you cannot get the help you should get.

    Bipolar is a terrible illness and lifelong, therefore you should get lifelong help from the medical services.

    I don't know if it is because of the increase in depression & anxiety scenario over the last few years.
  • whambam
    whambam Posts: 526 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    get a combined welfare and financial power of attorney for him costs £50-75 you can claim some of it back later on online.

    And apply for benefits on his behalf as he is incapable of dealing with his own affairs due to his mental condition.
  • PersianCatLady
    PersianCatLady Posts: 622 Forumite
    poppy10 wrote: »
    They won't be able to do anything about that.

    They may be able to expalin to the OP why his condition affects his ability to work.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,403 Community Admin
    10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    skcollobcat10 wrote: »
    I feel really sorry that you cannot get the help you should get.

    Bipolar is a terrible illness and lifelong, therefore you should get lifelong help from the medical services.

    I don't know if it is because of the increase in depression & anxiety scenario over the last few years.
    I think theres a lot more people seeking help (dont get me wrong i dont think its a bad thing if people need help and we are more open talking about it) but services are stretched pretty thin and theres very little funding going into it (despite what the government like to claim)
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • poppy10_2
    poppy10_2 Posts: 6,597 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    PersianCatLady wrote: »
    They may be able to expalin to the OP why his condition affects his ability to work.
    That won't help if OP's son is refusing to apply for benefits
    poppy10
  • PersianCatLady
    PersianCatLady Posts: 622 Forumite
    poppy10 wrote: »
    That won't help if OP's son is refusing to apply for benefits

    Are you always this negative Poppy??

    I haven't seen you come up with any ideas to help the OP?
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    PersianCatLady wrote: »
    Are you always this negative Poppy??

    I haven't seen you come up with any ideas to help the OP?

    Considering the OP hasnt been back in 10 days since asking for help I doubt they are that bothered by anything poppy is saying. (though they did log in 2 days ago)

    No one can properly help until many things are clarified. Mental health is far and wide, and simply 'not wanting to work' or 'not wanting to look for work' will not give an automatic entitlement to benefits. But we have no idea how his MH affects him.
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 37,160 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    whambam wrote: »
    get a combined welfare and financial power of attorney for him costs £50-75 you can claim some of it back later on online.

    And apply for benefits on his behalf as he is incapable of dealing with his own affairs due to his mental condition.

    You can't "get" a power of attorney for someone. A power of attorney can only be made by someone who has capacity if they choose to do so and they then decide who they wish their attorney to be.

    It is possible to apply to be an appointee for someone (and potentially a finances deputyship if they have enough assets to make it worthwhile) if they can demonstrated to lack capacity around the issue. However if the person has capacity they can choose to make unwise decisions and suffer the consequences.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • whambam
    whambam Posts: 526 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    elsien wrote: »
    You can't "get" a power of attorney for someone. A power of attorney can only be made by someone who has capacity if they choose to do so and they then decide who they wish their attorney to be.

    It is possible to apply to be an appointee for someone (and potentially a finances deputyship if they have enough assets to make it worthwhile) if they can demonstrated to lack capacity around the issue. However if the person has capacity they can choose to make unwise decisions and suffer the consequences.

    I done it and I can assure you that the person who gave consent had absolutely no understanding of what a power of attorney, the process, their rights and the good old lawyer just pushes it through to get the registration fee that's all they care about the system is a joke.
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 37,160 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    whambam wrote: »
    I done it and I can assure you that the person who gave consent had absolutely no understanding of what a power of attorney, the process, their rights and the good old lawyer just pushes it through to get the registration fee that's all they care about the system is a joke.

    Shame on you then for allowing it to happen.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
This discussion has been closed.
★ ★ ★ Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 353.4K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455K Spending & Discounts
  • 246.5K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 602.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178K Life & Family
  • 260.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.
Update Your Picture