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Who can I contact about social workers rights?
*Kat*
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My sister is 8mths pregnant. We are 26/27.
When we were 11/12, we were taken into foster care after they claimed my mother had Munchausen syndrome.
My sister saw her midwife today who told her that because of this, a social worker would be assigned to her case. This is her first child and she's freaking out.
She doesn't want social workers anywhere near her baby. A health visitor is normal, but I can't believe that they're actually assigning her a social worker for an illness my mother had.
When we were 11/12, we were taken into foster care after they claimed my mother had Munchausen syndrome.
My sister saw her midwife today who told her that because of this, a social worker would be assigned to her case. This is her first child and she's freaking out.
She doesn't want social workers anywhere near her baby. A health visitor is normal, but I can't believe that they're actually assigning her a social worker for an illness my mother had.
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My sister is 8mths pregnant. We are 26/27.
When we were 11/12, we were taken into foster care after they claimed my mother had Munchausen syndrome.
My sister saw her midwife today who told her that because of this, a social worker would be assigned to her case. This is her first child and she's freaking out.
She doesn't want social workers anywhere near her baby. A health visitor is normal, but I can't believe that they're actually assigning her a social worker for an illness my mother had.
Blimey! I'm no expert, but that sounds odd. Unless your sister has displayed any signs that she will pose a danger to her child, then I see no reason for a social worker! Can she tell the midwife that she doesn't want one? If she asks why, she can say 'because there is no need.'
Urgh, I have a feeling of foreboding about this.
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In terms of your question regarding who you or your sister can contact, it sounds like you want somebody like the Family Rights Group charity. See particularly their webpage for parents: http://www.frg.org.uk/need-help-or-advice/parents/information
In terms of the reasons why a referral to a social-work team may have been recommended - our backgrounds, particularly our childhoods and how we were parented, affect who we are and how we ourselves parent. This does *not* mean that any aspect of a person's behaviour or parenting automatically comes out of their childhood. There are people who receive very poor parenting themselves, who can reflect on this and go on to give excellent parenting to their own children. However, having had poor parenting or experienced abuse or neglect during childhood can have significant impacts on a person's mental health and parenting capacity. If I were the social worker for your sister's baby, I would be interested in knowing - how long you and your sister were in foster care and what that experience was like for you, whether your sister still has a relationship with your mother and whether your mother might pose any risk to the baby, whether your sister is together with the baby's dad, whether baby's dad is supportive and whether his extended family are around for support and so on. (I'm not suggesting you answer these questions on this forum.)
Children's social workers are massively overworked at present. They will want to be coming out and doing an Initial Assessment which says, for example, "X spent time in foster care as a child because of concerns A, B, C about her mother. X states that she didn't like being in foster care and found this very difficult. X has had episodes of depression, but has worked well with her GP to manage these. X shows good insight into children's needs. X has support from her sister, the baby's dad and the dad's extended family. There is no evidence that baby will be at risk of harm. Therefore, no ongoing social-work involvement is needed. Baby's health visitor will be asked to visit more regularly than normal during the first six months of baby's life in case X develops post-natal depression and needs extra support."
Refusing to talk to a social worker at all will actually look worse for your sister. Regardless of the other details in a social-work assessment, it always looks better when the assessment says:
"X was always on time for pre-arranged appointments, co-operated fully with the assessment and was polite towards the social worker" than when it says "X refused to talk to the social worker and did not appear to be able to listen or take on board explanations about why a social-work assessment had been requested". Anybody whose children are subject to social-work involvement is always entitled to take legal advice about their rights and the social-work department's actions (and even though legal aid has been slashed horrendously in the past couple of years - if there is any suggestion of a child being moved from their parent's care without the parent's permission, the parent will still get legal aid). Plus, as above, you or your sister may find it helpful to contact the Family Rights Group.
However, my advice (as a children's social worker) would be to agree to meet with a social worker and talk to them honestly. If your sister doesn't think she needs any help or support with the baby, and there is no evidence the baby is at risk of significant harm, then the social workers will go away again pretty quickly. (If your sister and the social workers were ever to disagree about whether the baby was at risk of significant harm, that would be a time when getting legal advice would be very important for your sister.)0 -
If you turn this around the social worker could be a blessing in disguise. How your sister feels now is understandable, but can any mother hand on heart say that the first few weeks aren't the most scary thing ever. You are left with this little being which is hard enough if you have the support of a good mother(Grandmother) by your side.
The social worker may be able to offer suggestions etc. your sister may not have thought of, and is there at the end of the phone if needed.
The last thing a social worker wants to do is take someone's children from them.
You have had excellent advice from the above re who to contact if you think this is unfair treatment.0 -
The social worker will be there to provide support for your sister. I know that with your background it must be hard not to see them as the 'enemy', but they really aren't, and they have no desire to separate mothers from babies except in the most extreme of cases.
It probably isn't set in stone at this stage anyway, I expect the midwife is just making a referral so that a social worker can come and assess whether your sister needs or would benefit from their input.
Don't panic!0 -
I agree with Lone Northern Lass - any resistance to Social Workers will raise red flags with them. Co-operation is best way forward. because if the SS has been contacted then you just cannot stop them because you feel there is no need.
tbh I do get the feeling from the OP that they were not convinced by the diagnosis of Munchausens. and view SS with deep suspicion.
but as northern lass explains, this type of mental illness can be passed on by a parent. therefore SS will want to satisfy itself that your sister is parenting properly. they will be highly delighted if she is.0 -
we had this before our LO was born as hubby was abused as a child we got on with had reports done before the baby came about how prepared we were and stuff and then we had 2 meetings with them after baby was here 1 at our house 1 at his 1 year check with health visitor and never heard from them again
make their job nice and easy and they wont bother your sister for longThe only people I have to answer to are my beautiful babies aged 8 and 50 -
It may also be due to querying what contact your mother ie baby's grandmother may be having with the baby and could similar concerns re: fabricated or induced illness be a factor now for this child.0
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squirrelchops wrote: »It may also be due to querying what contact your mother ie baby's grandmother may be having with the baby and could similar concerns re: fabricated or induced illness be a factor now for this child.
I was about to say this.
I was referred to a social worker when my first child was born due to my childhood/my parents. Their primary concern was ensuring that my father was going to be nowhere near my child (my mother was already dead by then).
I had 3 meetings - one when I was pregnant, one at home when she was small and then one when she was about a year old. I didn't find them negative in any way, they were very much 'we're just making sure there is nothing we can do for you' in mindset.0
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