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Does my son's wage count towards household income?

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  • uganda
    uganda Posts: 370 Forumite
    so we were robbed then?


    Unless you tell me what happened to you, with all details, I have no idea.
  • cidergirl wrote: »
    while he is in full time education you can claim for him on your tax credit award and he is able to work 16 hours part time and it will not affect the household income, but when he leaves full time education he will have to either earn his own money or claim his own benefits and will not be included in the familys tax credits but this will not affect your claim for the rest of the family at all whether he pays you housekeeping or not hth

    its 24 hours actually
  • woodbine wrote: »
    its 24 hours actually

    thanks woodbine never realised that it was as much as 24 hours they could work x
  • donnajunkie
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    uganda wrote: »
    Unless you tell me what happened to you, with all details, I have no idea.

    it is possible that rules have changed since then as it was in the mid 90's the last time we were in a situation of me working and my dad not working. my dads name is on the tenancy, mine isnt. he was claiming dole and i was working full time earning an ok wage but not a high wage. i cant remember exactly how much but with a rough guess i would say it was about £6.50 per hour for 38 hours per week. we certainly had to pay full rent and most of if not the whole council tax. the reason given was they take all household income into account. i was in my mid 20's and my dad was in his late 40's. like i said earlier they said if i did not give my dad the money to meet the increases they would take him to court.
  • uganda
    uganda Posts: 370 Forumite
    it is possible that rules have changed since then as it was in the mid 90's the last time we were in a situation of me working and my dad not working. my dads name is on the tenancy, mine isnt. he was claiming dole and i was working full time earning an ok wage but not a high wage. i cant remember exactly how much but with a rough guess i would say it was about £6.50 per hour for 38 hours per week. we certainly had to pay full rent and most of if not the whole council tax. the reason given was they take all household income into account. i was in my mid 20's and my dad was in his late 40's. like i said earlier they said if i did not give my dad the money to meet the increases they would take him to court.


    Well, I was working in housing benefits back in the mid-90s but I confess I cannot remember what the non-dependent deductions were back then. What I will tell you is that if you had the same situation now that you had then, your father's Housing Benefit would be deducted by £38.20pw and his Council Tax Benefit by £4.60pw based on your gross weekly income.
  • donnajunkie
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    uganda wrote: »
    Well, I was working in housing benefits back in the mid-90s but I confess I cannot remember what the non-dependent deductions were back then. What I will tell you is that if you had the same situation now that you had then, your father's Housing Benefit would be deducted by £38.20pw and his Council Tax Benefit by £4.60pw based on your gross weekly income.

    does what the actual full rent is and your council tax band have no relevance to the amounts?
    at the moment my dad is getting pension credit and i am on jsa. would it be a good idea to get my name on the tenancy or not?
  • uganda
    uganda Posts: 370 Forumite
    does what the actual full rent is and your council tax band have no relevance to the amounts?
    at the moment my dad is getting pension credit and i am on jsa. would it be a good idea to get my name on the tenancy or not?

    I didn't realise you were still in this position. Right, firstly the full rent (subject to the LHA amount - which could be lower - if it is a private rent) and council tax are the amounts that the deductions are made from. So let's say your dad's rent is £100pw and his CTAX is £25pw - his benefit would be £61.20pw and £20.40pw respectively with the income you described before.

    However, if you are on JSA, presuming it is income-based, the deduction would only be £7.40pw for Housing Benefit and nothing at all for Council Tax Benefit. If your JSA is contribution-based, there would be a £2.30pw deduction for Council Tax Benefit.

    As for getting your name on the tenancy, you and your father would then have to make 2 separate claims and each of you would be paid benefit, if applicable, based on your individual income and capital and half the rent each.
  • donnajunkie
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    uganda wrote: »
    I didn't realise you were still in this position. Right, firstly the full rent (subject to the LHA amount - which could be lower - if it is a private rent) and council tax are the amounts that the deductions are made from. So let's say your dad's rent is £100pw and his CTAX is £25pw - his benefit would be £61.20pw and £20.40pw respectively with the income you described before.

    However, if you are on JSA, presuming it is income-based, the deduction would only be £7.40pw for Housing Benefit and nothing at all for Council Tax Benefit. If your JSA is contribution-based, there would be a £2.30pw deduction for Council Tax Benefit.

    As for getting your name on the tenancy, you and your father would then have to make 2 separate claims and each of you would be paid benefit, if applicable, based on your individual income and capital and half the rent each.

    no our situation isnt the same as it was in the mid 90's. i was working then and he was getting a different benefit. we have both been in and out of work since then but that was the last time were i was working while he was out of work. we currently get full council tax benefit and we only have to pay just under £15 per week rent which includes about £6 water charges. the full rent including water charges is about £71. i am just curious if by going on the tenancy whether we would be better off or not(in or out of work).
    the rules are crazy because if my dad lived alone he would get full housing benefit and would only pay the £6 water charge. i think if i lived in my own house it is fair to say the same would apply to me. so the total we would be paying for two houses would be £12 if we lived seperate but coz we live together we pay £15. or if you prefer to disregard the water charge we would pay no rent at all for two houses but are paying £9 rent for one house.
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