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Bowlhead99
Not sure post #29 is the right reference.
(it answers his question about amount of portfolio??)
Anyway, what has happened to cause the confusion was you mentioned a couple of times that you had been reading up about CGT, 'keep hearing about CGT', etc.
CGT is the standard well-known acronym for Capital Gains Tax, which is a tax charged on gains you make when selling investments for more than you paid for them - if you are making profits in excess of an annual exempt amount, through those sales. it can be quite relevant when selling off your funds to make significant changes to your portfolio, as you are currently doing But whether you need to worry about it or not really depends on how much of your investment portfolio is actually exposed to tax charges (rather than being inside a tax-free ISA, or growing without being exposed to tax while inside a pension).
When you said "CGT is mentioned a lot, but with me changing to LS60, is there less need to consider it.", Malthusian presumably assumed you were asking a question about capital gains taxes, which could only be answered by you giving us some information about just how much money you had got invested in funds that you might now be selling to fund more VLS60 investment, how you plan to hold VLS60 in future (e.g. through an ISA, etc), and so on
However, eagle eyed readers may have noticed Dr Syn's post and your follow-up questions about Capital Gearing Trust, an investment product that trades on the stock exchange using the ticker 'CGT' which is confusingly the same acronym. There are many many more references in threads from newbie investors asking about CGT the tax, rather than CGT the unrelated investment trust.although I think at times you were smiling at my comments? but as admitted requently, I am not as experienced as you guys.That's exactly what many said and thought about
ENRON SHARES
Bernie Madoff fund
You should read up on both of these major scandals. Then you will never be so certain again.
The key point is that you are obviously exposed to market movements until you sell them -which can be erratic and outside your control. So the standard advice would be that once you realise that you have exposed yourself to higher investment risks than you think you're comfortable with, you should sell / derisk as soon as possible, to stop the risk turning into a reality.
That doesn't necessarily mean sell in the next half hour before market for SMT closes for the night at 4.30 this afternoon. But sooner rather than later. If you have already decided to sell, no need to prolong the anguish. You could have sold yesterday at over 520p. Now it's more like 516 which is half a percent to one percent lower. It may go back up tomorrow, or might go down another percent. If you know you want to sell, no real need to keep holding to the end of the week0 -
Malthusian wrote: »Neither Scottish Mortgage nor FundSmith are individual shares and neither of them are Ponzi schemes. What do Enron and Madoff have anything to do with?
I deliberately did not include either companies names in that post. You made that connection not me.
I was just pointing out that many people who had invested in Enron and Madoff where just as sure those companies would not go down the pan.
Reading about them shows you cannot ever be certain about what can happen in investing.0 -
SMT has now gone, and yes, I am familar with CGT as in tax, and I do not take offence, just feel the right to reply sometimes, and as I have said several times, you are a friendly bunch, and very helpful.0
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Hi Guys
I think RIT was mentioned early in post, as was CGT but when I checked them out on HL, I find the fees/costs all over the place, why dont they give a true "all in/total" cost, os the so called OCF does not give it.
If any members can tell me TRUE annual costs for both, I would be most grateful.
Also I will ask, now that I have taken note on balance of defence/aggressive, my starting base is....
LTGE for equities
LS 60/40 for bond mix
If, and I mean if, if I went for either of the above, would that be wrong as I would be duplicating with 60/40 ?0 -
I deliberately did not include either companies names in that post. You made that connection not me.
Your reply to that, quoting his post, wasThat's exactly what many said and thought about
ENRON SHARES
Bernie Madoff fund
You should read up on both of these major scandals. Then you will never be so certain again
And therefore the "you will never be so certain again" (of the prospects for those companies tomorrow) is somewhat fallacious and scare-mongering, rather than being helpful to an inexperienced investor.
You can pretend that you didn't include the company names on purpose and we have jumped to the wrong conclusion due to our own inadequacies - but you were literally replying to a post you were quoting, which was talking about those two companies in particular not going bust tomorrow.
If they do go bust tomorrow I'll pay OP the value of his holdings from my own pocket. That's my level of certainty.
However, the offer is not valid beyond tomorrow 4 Sept 20190 -
bowlhead99 wrote: »We made the connection because OP was describing how there was two specific companies he would dispose of, but that "I dont think either will go bust tomorrow, so I am not going to panic"
Your reply to that, quoting his post, was
But I expect after reading up on the types of issues involved in those scandals, he will still be so certain again: he can still make his statement that, "I dont think either will go bust tomorrow, so I am not going to panic..."
And therefore the "you will never be so certain again" (of the prospects for those companies tomorrow) is somewhat fallacious and scare-mongering, rather than being helpful to an inexperienced investor.
You can pretend that you didn't include the company names on purpose and we have jumped to the wrong conclusion due to our own inadequacies - but you were literally replying to a post you were quoting, which was talking about those two companies in particular not going bust tomorrow.
If they do go bust tomorrow I'll pay OP the value of his holdings from my own pocket. That's my level of certainty.
However, the offer is not valid beyond tomorrow 4 Sept 2019
Had I wanted to link the two companies to Enron and Madoff with the intention of scaremongering as you put it, then I would have left their names in the post.
The post as explained, was my way of warning the newbie, that you should never take anything as a certainty when investing.
Whether he heeds the warning going forward, or expands he's knowledge by reading about Enron and Madoff, is up to him of course.
If anyone choses not to believe me that is up to them.0 -
Bowlhead99
Not sure post #29 is the right reference.(it answers his question about amount of portfolio??)
I thank you for a very comprehensive reply, and I listened to your points, although I think at times you were smiling at my comments? but as admitted requently, I am not as experienced as you guys.
Although I owe no obligation to you members, am taking note, and I am making changes as you have ALL correctly pointed out, I have not been into defensive fund enough. Well, as shown, I am taking steps, and will sell SMT first and FS next, but even with all the comments, I dont think either will go bust tomorrow, so I am not going to panic.
However I'd keep hold of FS as it's good defensive fund imho and it held up well in the volatility of August. Also the returns are pretty good as it's my 2nd best performing fund. However it's your money and your decision so you can do what you want with it.0 -
Iglad
Sell SMT which I did recently as the investment strategy has changed as they seem to be heading towards a venture capitalist fund, which reminded of another fund.
However I'd keep hold of FS as it's good defensive fund imho and it held up well in the volatility of August. Also the returns are pretty good as it's my 2nd best performing fund. However it's your money and your decision so you can do what you want with it.
As stated in post 44, I have already sold SMT but hanging on to FS while it is doing well.0 -
Any opinions on this fund guys?
HSBC GLOBAL STRATEGY BALANCED PORTFOLIO CLASS C - ACCUMULATION (GBP)0 -
Hi Guys
I think RIT was mentioned early in post, as was CGT but when I checked them out on HL, I find the fees/costs all over the place, why dont they give a true "all in/total" cost, os the so called OCF does not give it.
If any members can tell me TRUE annual costs for both, I would be most grateful.
In last year's financial report, Capital Gearing had 1.42 million of management fee expense and 0.42 million of other administration expense. So, 1.84m of annual cost, to compare against 264.5 million of average daily net asset value. Gives 0.70% as an ongoing costs ratio.
If you like, you could say there was also 0.01% of tax cost so it is really 0.71%, but the taxes only happen if profits are made and the level of profits for next year are unknown, which is why tax isn't included in OCF.
You could also say that the reported investment gains could have been higher if they had been able to complete their investment purchases and disposals without incurring transaction costs. But the actual amount of transaction costs are not critically important for an unsophisticated investor. We know that they will have paid for transaction costs such as brokerage fees etc, and we can see how much money they were able to make or lose net of all of those costs. We either like the profile of net returns over different market conditions, or we don't.
If we have the 'transaction costs, not included in OCF' figure, we can pretend we know the fund intimately better, and are well placed to evaluate it against all the competition. But the methodology for coming up with disclosed transaction figures will vary from fund to fund and sometimes produce meaningless results - and in any case you are not in practice going to critically review this fund against hundreds of competing products.
For the moment it is just easier to assume the transaction costs are higher than for the equity/bond index funds in the Vanguard 60/40 product.Also I will ask, now that I have taken note on balance of defence/aggressive, my starting base is....
LTGE for equities
LS 60/40 for bond mix
If, and I mean if, if I went for either of the above, would that be wrong as I would be duplicating with 60/40 ?
If you add another fund which is not 100% equities but uses a different methodology for its equity /property / bonds allocation, that's fine. Something like Capital Gearing or RIT Capital Partners has a completely different approach to portfolio construction than Lifestrategy 60 and is no more of a duplication than LTGE is. You can change the ratios of the funds in your portfolio to fit whatever you like in it.Any opinions on this fund guys?
HSBC GLOBAL STRATEGY BALANCED PORTFOLIO CLASS C - ACCUMULATION (GBP)
It's fine. You could put the whole £40k in it. It just depends what you are trying to achieve.0
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