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Sir_Humphrey

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

Politics is interesting again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/2116367/David-Davis-to-resign-as-shadow-home-secretary.html

:shocked:

This just goes to show how unpredictable things can be.

Lotus-eater

I really like Davis, but what a waste of time, he's gone down in my estimation.

WTF?_2

Lotus-eater wrote: »

I really like Davis, but what a waste of time, he's gone down in my estimation.

What would you suggest he do then?

If ever there was an issue worth taking a stand on, the disgusting erosion of civil liberties that we have seen over the last six or seven years is it.

Sir_Humphrey

!!!!!!? wrote: »

What would you suggest he do then?

If ever there was an issue worth taking a stand on, the disgusting erosion of civil liberties that we have seen over the last six or seven years is it.

I am amazed by this. I would not have expected Davis to be one to resign on this.

The destruction of civil liberties IMO started when Michael Howard was Home Secretary (and possibly before if you look at police action at Orgreave).

I am no fan (to put it lightly) of Davis, but he has done well on this.

Lotus-eater

!!!!!!? wrote: »

What would you suggest he do then?

If ever there was an issue worth taking a stand on, the disgusting erosion of civil liberties that we have seen over the last six or seven years is it.

Well its got him some good publicity, thats what its all about isn't it?

WTF?_2

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Well its got him some good publicity, thats what its all about isn't it?

Why would he need publicity for himself?

If it brings media attention to the issue then it's a job well done. Hopefully the sheep-minded 66% of the public who allegedly support a massive period of detention without charge might wake themselves up and think about the issues.

If they don't, they deserve the society that they're going to get.

neverdespairgirl

Lotus-eater wrote: »

I really like Davis, but what a waste of time, he's gone down in my estimation.

I couldn't agree less. It's an extremely important issue, glad he's done it.

Sir_Humphrey

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I couldn't agree less. It's an extremely important issue, glad he's done it.

One thing is very likely, this will have peed off David Cameron no end. The last thing the Tories need as a party is a split. It seems likely that Cameron was going flaky in him opposition to 42 days. We should find out if this is the case fairly soon.

This would not be surprising considering Cameron's back-pedalling on the environment and other issues. Does he have any beliefs?

This may give Gordon Brown a brief respite, so is a rare bit of good news for him.

epz_2

davis was banging on about this during the conservative leadership election so its not like it is being done out of character or self interest.

frankly i kind of agree with his fury that brown bought or threatened weak willed MP's whos job it is to protect our liberty while he has personally walked away from what would be a post in the 3rd highest political office in the land to highlight this issue.

lostinrates

I think its very exciting for British politics. I am as yet undeciided on the 42 day issue (I believe the right to safety of the public is important but I also believe this might not have been necessary to act in the case where real danger was thought to exist) but I absolutely agree about the disgraceful behaviour of the present government. This for me is not a party issue (I vote on policy not party). All governments do things behind scenes and sometimes this is necessary but this government has been distinctintly shoddy, and whats more they have been incapable of keeping a lot of this suspect behaviour out of the press, worringly incompetant at this under the table stuff!