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Thousands facing negative equity

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  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Vested Interests I presume.
    But aren't we all?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • hostman
    hostman Posts: 377 Forumite
    Vested Interests I presume.
    But aren't we all?

    To a point, but some VI's are worst than others :)
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    hostman wrote: »
    To a point, but some VI's are worst than others :)
    I can agree to a point as well.
    But surely one vetsted interest on one side of the see saw is always going to think the VI on the opposite side of the see saw is worse ;)

    It's the beuty of the see saw that you can see both sides of the debate and make an educated decision for yourself.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Home owners wanting to stay put are wanting their house to rise, FTBs and people wanting to move up are wanting the values to drop. There needs to be a bit of give and take on both sides, but the main issue is the lenders who need to start lending again.
    I am a Mortgage Consultant and don't like to be told what I can and can't put in a signature so long as it's legal and truthful.
  • WTF?_2
    WTF?_2 Posts: 4,592 Forumite
    Home owners wanting to stay put are wanting their house to rise, FTBs and people wanting to move up are wanting the values to drop. There needs to be a bit of give and take on both sides, but the main issue is the lenders who need to start lending again.


    Prices started dropping as of September last year, four to five months before credit from the banks dried up.

    Has it occurred to you why that credit for mortgages dried up at that point in time? It's not so much that someone suddenly turned off their money taps as the credit crunch had been going for a good year by that stage and up until that point they still had cash for mortgages. Clue: The banks aren't totally stupid and they know that the housing market is a busted flush.

    If you want to find where the money went which previously would have been loaned as mortgages, look no further than the energy or commodities markets. It's working out pretty well for the banks, if not the general public. :rolleyes:
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    Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    !!!!!!? wrote: »
    Prices started dropping as of September last year, four to five months before credit from the banks dried up.

    Has it occurred to you why that credit for mortgages dried up at that point in time? It's not so much that someone suddenly turned off their money taps as the credit crunch had been going for a good year by that stage and up until that point they still had cash for mortgages. Clue: The banks aren't totally stupid and they know that the housing market is a busted flush.

    If you want to find where the money went which previously would have been loaned as mortgages, look no further than the energy or commodities markets. It's working out pretty well for the banks, if not the general public. :rolleyes:

    What a load of rubbish. It took those few months for the lack of credit to filter through to the banking system.
  • WTF?_2
    WTF?_2 Posts: 4,592 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    What a load of rubbish. It took those few months for the lack of credit to filter through to the banking system.

    The credit crunch had been ongoing for more than just a few months before Feb/Mar this year when the banks suddenly returned to sensible lending policies. You know, things like requiring a deposit and rates of interest that reflected the comeback of reality to the markets (cost of borrowing money and risk).

    You will find that anyone with a 10% deposit, a good credit history and a job should have no problem finding a mortgage for 3.5x their salary. There's no shortage of money to lend for sensible property purchases.

    The financial sector still has large amounts of money to throw around courtesy of huge 'emergency liquidity measures'. However, they're choosing to put that money somewhere it can make them a profit (pumping up bubbles in energy and food) instead of throwing it like confetti at the fast sinking housing market. There's also the matter of all the excess cash pumped into the system at ever increasing rates since 2001.
    --
    Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
  • mr.broderick
    mr.broderick Posts: 3,778 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    !!!!!!? wrote: »
    Prices started dropping as of September last year, four to five months before credit from the banks dried up.

    Has it occurred to you why that credit for mortgages dried up at that point in time? It's not so much that someone suddenly turned off their money taps as the credit crunch had been going for a good year by that stage and up until that point they still had cash for mortgages. Clue: The banks aren't totally stupid and they know that the housing market is a busted flush.

    If you want to find where the money went which previously would have been loaned as mortgages, look no further than the energy or commodities markets. It's working out pretty well for the banks, if not the general public. :rolleyes:


    Looks like we've reached the bottom !!!!!!, there is a thread running along side this one with actual proof of that, quite different from your constant threads with links to guesswork, we are in for an interesting evening...:o
  • m00m00
    m00m00 Posts: 1,755 Forumite
    there's a category error in this discussion

    it's not just negative equity that's an issue for many. Even still remaining in positive equity in the 91-99% range will cause a great deal of problems for people on fixed term mortgages who need to remortgage in the current climate.
    It's a health benefit ...
  • mr.broderick
    mr.broderick Posts: 3,778 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    m00m00 wrote: »
    there's a category error in this discussion

    it's not just negative equity that's an issue for many. Even still remaining in positive equity in the 91-99% range will cause a great deal of problems for people on fixed term mortgages who need to remortgage in the current climate.

    Unfortunately with prices rises again as they now are equity will head in the positive direction again and won't be an issue. Must admit i thought they would have fallen more than 3% and was hoping they would, just goes to show...:cool:
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