Light entertainment tonight-Kirstie and Phil

baby_boomer

It should've been a Government Health Warning - not just a disclaimer

This programme could seriously damage your wealth

poppysarah

He worked from home and wanted to get away from a screaming baby - did his wife work? So was he supposed to be looking after the baby? Didn't quite get that.
I did like the pulling out of the two folders packed with properties they've rejected though.

John_Pierpoint

Dinah93 wrote: »

I did actually like the new house the couple with the baby bought, lots of full length windows and light, but I am a little swayed by the fact that my current 'traditional' rented house has water running down the walls and mushrooms growing on the kitchen ceiling, so new houses are beautifully clean and enticing to me!

These houses with "cathedral" ceilings, under the tiles :- What stops the roof spreading?.
Traditional houses have an upstairs ceiling made by nailing plaster board to the timber, that ties together the feet of the rafters that support the tiles.
Some houses achieve a bit of extra headroom in the bedrooms building with "A" frames rather than triangles, but some of these houses seem to have nothing at all stopping the roof doing the splits?

PasturesNew

Poppea wrote: »

Just found this house on Rightmove. It looks like the same type of house they ended up buying? Two years later and they don't seem to have gone up in value at all.

And "£60,000 WORTH OF EXTRAS" is the start of the details.

I didn't like them anyway ... if he was running such a successful business that he could get a £550k mortgage surely he could have afforded to rent an office in a serviced office block and be really professional about it.

PasturesNew

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

These houses with "cathedral" ceilings, under the tiles :- What stops the roof spreading?.

HPI fairies. They live in the roof space and hold everything up, including the roof.

Doozergirl

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

These houses with "cathedral" ceilings, under the tiles :- What stops the roof spreading?.
Traditional houses have an upstairs ceiling made by nailing plaster board to the timber, that ties together the feet of the rafters that support the tiles.
Some houses achieve a bit of extra headroom in the bedrooms building with "A" frames rather than triangles, but some of these houses seem to have nothing at all stopping the roof doing the splits?

The A Frame uses collar ties.

You can use gusset plates too which compete the triangle even nearer the top.

John_Pierpoint

Would that be triangular sheets of metal with spikes to hold rafters together in pairs?

Some of these modern designs seem to go right up to a point leaving no room for any sort of collar or gusset.

Still think I would be wary of a building with the roof balancing on top of the walls without visible sign of ties. I'd worry about land movement or high winds.
Remember '87 in Southern England?

Harry.

Thinks: Award yourself a gold star for not descending to school yard humor.

neverdespairgirl

My parents' house has the A roof frame thing - there are huge posts at the centre of the house, that hold the whole thing up.

The church in Smarden, Kent, is known as the "Barn of Kent" because it has such a wide roof span with no pillars to hold it up, I visited it a few years ago, and it's amazing.

http://www.allsaintsbiddenden.org/Visitorsmarden.html

John_Pierpoint

We are getting right off thread here:D

The free masons and their gilded mates the chippies, invented all sorts of techniques in addition to the collar: king post, queen post, hammer beam but above all "the flying buttress"; the colonnade of pillars and arches along the side of the nave, internally but usually externally; specifically designed to get the weight of the roof down to the ground without having it push the wall over.
They also had one or two spectacular failures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttress

neverdespairgirl

THe medieval catherdrals are absolutely amazing, both in terms of beauty and engineering.