find out if your neighbours are council or privately rented or mortgaged

daveyliver

Before I begin this is no way a slight on anyone who rents from private landlords or HA or council. I have lived in privately rented houses and council houses and must admit iv found my neighbours to be salt of the earth, honest hard working people.

But in an ever increasing anti social environment, I think I would prefer to live next door to someone who was mortgage committed.

Two examples have made me think like this.

As previously posted My girlfriend sold her house last november, and her neighbour was a lovely middle aged lady, she rented off a private landlord, always friendly, extremely quiet and a delight to live next door to.

My GF has spoken to a friend of hers who lives still in the road, she said the lady moved out not long after my GF moved out and the family who have took over the rent are a nightmare, Parties till all hours, The chav kids egged the whole road after a party, that the mother was at by the way, AT 4 AM!!!
fights, kids congregating outside the front door till all hours.

I feel so sorry for the couple who bought my GF house, Because although we told them it was a privately rented house, we were singing the previous tennants praises and even introduced her to the buyers, and thier reaction was "oh my god shes lovely"

When I was with The mother of my children we rented a council house, The road was lovely and the neighbours were much like us, a family with babies. Anyway they got themselves on the property ladder and guess who the council moved in next door, Yes the family that was famous for being booted out of a number of homes in the area, luckily I had been forwarned by a m8 of mine and had somewhere else set up to rent by the time the clampitts arrived.
Anyway It was a total chain reaction, other neighbours started to leave, the clampitts told thier other relatives about the road, they moved into the vacant houses, more people moved out, more scum moved in, crack eds etc, It got so much like beirut that people who bought thier houses from the council sold them back at a loss. Half the road ended up being boarded up as the scumbags took control of the street. It got such a den of vice that the council bull dozed the road and its a waste ground now. From lovely road to dante's purgatory, all in the space of a year and a half.

This is what Im trying to avoid, so is there anyway of finding out if the house next door is council, HA or private landlord? Apart from Knocking on the door and saying "excuse me do you rent this property". I know I could always ask the seller but what if they dont know?

As I say this is no way a knock at people who are honest normal tennants, and as stated above I could buy a house next door to the most saintly of council tennants or private renters, But its then a lottery if your neighbours move or get on the property ladder elsewhere. And of course I know there is no assurance that if your neighbours own their own home, That they wont be banjo toting deliverance throwbacks, I just think the risk is decreased if its mortgaged, and if investing 60k of our hard earned money I want every I dotted and T crossed.

cheers in advance:beer:

Benefits_Blagger

daveyliver wrote: »

But in an ever increasing anti social environment, I think I would prefer to live next door to someone who was mortgage committed.

i'm on benefit and i totally agree with you and refuse to live next to other giro grabbers. i lived on a council estate and the people were scum and live like animals.

fortunatly as an ex-teacher who can live like a normal civilised person, i can easily pass as a fellow professional to my neighbours.

Mary_Hartnell

Pay 3 GBP per property and the Land Registry will give you details of the property, its owners and the restrictions on it such as the mortgage provider. It might be a BTL mortgage provider. You could then check the voters register in the local library to see if the owner lives in the house.

IveSeenTheLight

To be honest, I do not give a rats !!! about whether my neighbours are tenants (private or council), owner occupiers or whatever.
I can understand you point about nobody wanting to live next to neigbours from hell, but if we all had this attitude it would drive a massive wedge in society and massively see areas where houses are far more desireable and others where nobody wants to live.

I know plenty of nice areas that have a rogue family shall we say living there.
I also know plenty of nice areas where acroos the street / round the corner are areas less desireable

daveyliver

So you buy a house, invest your hard earned savings into it, The neighbours privately rent, and they are good as gold.

Then six months later they move. The house lays empty for 2 months. Landlord gets desperate. Rents out to a IV drug abuser.

Your constantly awoken in the night by drug fuelled rows. Many dodgy people are now turning up next door to you. You phone the environmental health about the noise. But when they come there is silence next door as they are passed out.

You get in touch with the landlord, he promises to speak to them. Never does. You wake up in the night and go downstairs and you have been robbed.

You go to work and notice someone has vomited all over your front door. You get home from work to find that your wifes or hubbys car window is smashed and the glovebox open and ransacked. every time you enter or leave your house there is someone sitting on next doors step with a can of special brew.

Youve have had enough and put your house up for sale, but no one wants it because of your neighbours. Your nerves are shot and your relationship with your OH is strained. You just want out and phone a "we buy your house" company. They offer you 40k less than the propertys worth, You worked all the hours god sends to get the 40k deposit, its gone.

You now have to rent as cheaply as possible.

You move into your new property and say hello to the guy sitting on next doors step, drinking a can of special brew.

still dont give a rats ?

Ok so this is a bit extreme but these boards are full of posts about people wanting to get shot of property because of anti social behaviour. So I will investigate any area I move to, I have a right to protect my families future and I will. And whatever that takes I dont give a rats!!!

IveSeenTheLight

Very extreme, but you make a good point.
You could check all you like and find that a few months later the situation changes.
Stop being so bloody nosey into other peoples lives.

I believe in that if you treat people nice, they will treat you nice back, regardless of where they came from.
So far it has worked me wonders.

In my home there is a family with a number of teenage boys who drive fast in the street. I dont concern myself with them as I know they will grow up and move out.
Okay I dont have kids and I probably would have a word if I did and I thought it would affect me or I could tell my kids to play in the rear garden.

My point is, if I had given a rats @rse when I boulght the property, I would have missed out on what has been an extremely good property.

daveyliver

Benefits_Blagger wrote: »

i'm on benefit and i totally agree with you and refuse to live next to other giro grabbers.

I couldnt and wouldnt say that anyone who is on benefits is scum, I once had a short stint unemployed, and anyone would love me as a neighbour, but its who they get when I move out.

daveyliver

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Stop being so bloody nosey into other peoples lives.

Im not gonna do a credit check on them or research their family tree;)

As for kids driving up and down the road, you say it doesnt affect you cos you dont have children, But maybe your lovely neighbour does, And one of there kids has been knocked down and seriously hurt, or god forbid, worse.

Wish you had done something now?

Isnt that contributing to that diverse society your keen to avoid? Those that will do something about it and those that dont.

For me I will take prevention ahead of cure any day.

IveSeenTheLight

daveyliver wrote: »

For me I will take prevention ahead of cure any day.

I agree prevention is better than cure, I think however that the levels you go to may leave yourself a very long time or in the remote countryside to find the ideal place.

Better to try an get on with people instead of fhying away from them

I think this also depends on your budget, as without trying to sound snobby, those with a higher valued property are likely to stay in an area with those who do not fit your category as neighbours from hell.
But you'll be surprised, everybody has their skeletons in their closets.

What would people find out about you?

poppysarah

The worst family on my street are owner occupiers.

Privately rented propertys tend not to be part of a system which involves a sensible neighbour nuisance policy. Most landlords aren't geared up to deal with troublesome tenants who make your life hell - unlike council and housing associations.

Owners can be as horrific as they like - there are very few sanctions available to move them on - so you'd be stuck with asbo kids - ok they can do parenting orders too but overall OO are there forever

pickles110564

poppysarah wrote: »

Privately rented propertys tend not to be part of a system which involves a sensible neighbour nuisance policy. Most landlords aren't geared up to deal with troublesome tenants who make your life hell - unlike council and housing associations.

As long as my tenants pay on time every month I dont care what they do or behave like.
They are entitled to live their lives as they see fit, I live in a very posh area but next door have a huge motorhome stuck on the drive ruining my view of the loverly other properties.If I did say anything all that would happen would be very bad feeling.