Darling the saviour of oo?

IveSeenTheLight

LillyJ wrote: »

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Prescription charges would go up anyway if they stop being subsidised by English tax payers....

Its a good job Scots were around to come up with some medication so crucial to the development of medicine i.e. penicillan.

Lets not develop this into an invention issue though

What would England do without the water that is pumped down south when you have your summer droughts?

I think both countries would adapt and Scotland would definately do well.

LillyJ

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Its a good job Scots were around to come up with some medication so crucial to the development of medicine i.e. penicillan.

Shame they didn't teach you how to spell it. I thought your education system was subsidised by us as well? Clearly we need to plough more money in.

IveSeenTheLight

epz wrote: »

Im all for independence, frankly the sooner we kill off socialisim up here and get back to being crazed inventors/capitalists in stead of a losing large chunks of the population due to lack of oppertunites caused by having no real control of our economy

Well said epz.

mitchaa

LillyJ wrote: »

Shame they didn't teach you how to spell it. I thought your education system was subsidised by us as well? Clearly we need to plough more money in.

Are you for real or just a wind up?

What does it matter if someone is English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish?? Thought this nonsense stopped back in the playground? How childish

You seriously have an issue with Scotland or Scots??:rolleyes:

If we took oil revenue, whisky exports and the usaul taxation system, Scotland would do far better than England. It only has to support 5.5m.

I would imagine the revenue from whisky export alone would pay for every Scot in the country welfare wise. Never mind the oil and gas, tourism revenue.

Also as far as im aware we still pay full prescription charges up here, heard rumours of it going down to £5 soon though (it may already have?). Its Wales who get the free prescriptions.

Think you need to grow up a bit with your posts. We subsidise you attitude, have never heard the likes:rolleyes:

LillyJ

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/22/nscot122.xml
I have nothing against Scots (and half my family are from there) I just find it unfair that your government decides what they want to do, then take money from England to do it. I know Wales get free prescriptions (which is totally, utterly unfair and disgraceful) but Scots don't pay as much as English people. When there are students in England having to pay over £7 for a prescription and not buying their asthma medication as they can't afford it, then I think that is disgusting.

Us subsidising you is not an attitude it is a FACT. Have you read the above posts about the amount spent on each person in each region? Apart from the fact that Scots need more health care anyway cos they are the most unhealthy (again, not opinion but fact).

As far as I am concerned (from speaking to Scottish people who I know from my family and regular visits to the country) most Scots want independence anyway, and so I don't know what the problem is. This half way house is just insane.

mitchaa

Most Scots do not want independence, where did you get this info from?

Additional to your point above, like ive mentioned before England does not subsidise Scotland, you have to compare apples with apples, where does all the SCOTTISH oil and gas revenue go? Yes the BRITISH government. If we were to get the full profits of the oil and gas revenue, there would be no need for this ''subsidisation''

The SNP have a ludicrous plan to implement a 3p increase in IT in order to rid the council tax system. If this comes into effect, most of the countries working population will be considerably worse off.

If it happens, i for 1 would move myself back down south of the border.

The half way house...What would you you say about BRITISH armed forces?
Its always going to be half way as our armed forces could not cope with such a fall in troop levels if Scotland were to go it alone.

dandare

just on the free prescription charges, i don't find it disgraceful. surely giving the general public access to medicine, regardless of the finances, to help them is a good thing. why are ye disgraced by this action? is it because you still have to pay? if so take it up with yer politicians. don't get angry with the others who benefit from a good/sensible/civilised deal.
take it up the with the pharma companies flogging the nhs with overpriced drugs. take it up with the nhs for paying these prices.
demand it for you and others from the liars, cheats and thieves in power ! as a moneysaver ye should be jumping for joy! and pestering till you get it yerself.

mitchaa

Also as far as i am aware prescription charges north of the border are £6.85

Soon to be lowered to £5.

Dont make a blind bit of difference to me, have been to the chemist once in the past 10yrs for a prescription.

What do they English pay for prescriptions then? Scots at £6.85, Wales for free, what do the English pay?

Cant see it being much more than £6.85 though

Dont see why its relevant anyway, the 3m or so on income support get it all for nothing anyway.

dandare

well mitcha we could all go on saying most scots do/don't want independence. and quote nonsense polls. there is only one way to find out.
ask them all. put it down on a bit of paper and we'll then know what scots folk want.
until then ye can really only speak for yerself not a country.

LillyJ

Well as I said it was just anecdotal information from people I know in the north of scotland, maybe it is regional.
I have no idea about whisky (apart from that I don't like it) so can't comment, but I do know about healthcare.
I agree about the armed forces, but if we were to be independent of each other, I doubt highly that Scotland would be a major force in the military world and therefore there would be a huge amount of unemployment. Although I agree that places like Lossiemouth would be a loss.

I actually love Scotland, it is a beautiful country and I stay there for a couple of weeks every summer with family, but if we are truly one nation we should all be treated the same, not giving unfair advantages to people who happen to live in one part of it.

I just don't think this "sort of" Scottish government is a good idea, as, for example with the care funding for old people, they can just decide to do things that we do not benefit from in England, whilst still accepting the money from us.

One good thing (and no one, not even you can deny this) of England becoming separate, would be that Gordon Brown would have to stand down. And that, in my opinion, would be a great thing!