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Inflation is running at twice the official rate

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  • merlinthehappypig
    merlinthehappypig Posts: 1,106 Forumite
    I haven't contributed to this thread yet as I haven't been around much the last few days and haven't much felt like MSE'ing anyway, but I've just read through the posts here.

    This has developed in to one of the most interesting and thoughtful threads on here for a long time. Much better than all the bickering about house price crashes or otherwise.

    Nice to see others with the same thoughts about where society is going.

    Sadly though, based on the income figures quoted earlier, I'm apparently one of the serfs, though with opinions above my station and I don't read the Sun or watch awful reality TV programmes so there might be hope for a bit of social climbing.

    Haven't told Mrs Serf yet...............
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    lilac_lady wrote: »
    People have to live somewhere and taking out a mortgage is a necessity for many people, not a luxury.

    I absolutely agree with the first part of your sentence, but completely disagree with the second.

    People do not have to take out a mortgage. There are many other options, some of which are available to every person who could otherwise chain themselves to the bank.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    No it wasn't - in 1938 just over 30% of homes were owner occupied.

    My Dad says that in working-class Cheshire in the 1950s, where he grew up, home-owning was considered important.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    !!!!!!? wrote: »
    The law and loss of civil liberties affects everyone!

    The fact that people would think that some repressive law is OK because 'it won't affect them' is a sign of just how easy to manipulate they are and a sad state of how vulnerable our society is to taking a rather nasty turn towards authoritarianism.

    I absolutely agree with you.

    "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • jamescredmond
    jamescredmond Posts: 1,061 Forumite
    I always get a little nervous when a politico uses the word 'war', because a better excuse to curtail liberty, shut down dissent/debate has yet to be invented.

    to find a good example of war can be used as an instrument of state it's not necessary to haul back to WW1/2.

    from my youth I can remember how viciously ( and effectively ) any opposition to the falklands war was shouted down by the jingoists in the popular press and on the right wing of the con. party.

    to even question the wisdom of going to war was bawled at as 'unpatriotic'.

    I was too young to have formed any meaningful opinion but I remember feeling queasy at the sight of older people cheering young men into battle from the comfort of their armchairs.

    fast forward to today and the 'war' on terror is coming in very useful.

    lengthened detention max. period.

    who would have thought it from a lab. gov'ment.............
    miladdo
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Dear me, this is turning into a group-hug-fest - I agree with you completely.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • ianmr65
    ianmr65 Posts: 596 Forumite
    neverdespairgirl wrote: »
    jamescredmond wrote: »
    as a manual worker I'm hardly the sharpest knife in the drawer,[ /quote]

    that absolutely doesn't follow, no reason a manual worker isn't extremely bright, and your postings don't come across as thick by any means.

    Yes indeed, in my experience, a lot of senior exec's display native cunning, and are good communicators, and read people well, but you wouldn't have them down as super bright.

    Whereas a great many manual workers, especially in industries like coal mining (RIP) would have to be pretty bright as it was dangerous, and highly skilled work.

    NB I'm semi retired, at the ripe old age of 42, after 20 pretty succesful years in Purchasing - but turn my hand at Door Supervion on a casual basis- (bouncer) Can i have a hug too neverdispairgirl!! ;)
  • ianmr65
    ianmr65 Posts: 596 Forumite
    merlinthehappypig wrote: »

    Sadly though, based on the income figures quoted earlier, I'm apparently one of the serfs, though with opinions above my station and I don't read the Sun or watch awful reality TV programmes so there might be hope for a bit of social climbing.

    Haven't told Mrs Serf yet...............

    To be fair the real serfs are the indian people making our clothes for £1.50 a day, and the chinese people making our electrics, for £1.00 a day, and the african people digging up our minerals for 50p a day.

    So it's all relative. The main thing - is that you are satisfied with your lot - as many many people have sung : (Johnny cash and Bob Dylan to name but two)

    How many times have you heard someone say
    "If I had his money, I could do things my way?"
    Little they know that it's so hard to find
    One rich man in ten with a satisfied mind.

    Once I was winning in fortune and fame
    Everything that I dreamed for to get a start in life's game
    Suddenly it happened, I lost every dime
    But I'm richer by far with a satisfied mind

    Money can't buy back your youth when you're old
    Or a friend when you're lonely, or a love that's grown cold
    The wealthiest person is a pauper at times
    Compared to the man with a satisfied mind

    When my life is ended, my time has run out
    My trials and my loved ones, I'll leave them, no doubt
    But one thing's for certain, when it comes my time
    I'll leave this old world with a satisfied mind
    I'll leave this old world with a satisfied mind
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    ianmr65 wrote: »
    neverdespairgirl wrote: »
    NB I'm semi retired, at the ripe old age of 42, after 20 pretty succesful years in Purchasing - but turn my hand at Door Supervion on a casual basis- (bouncer) Can i have a hug too neverdispairgirl!! ;)

    You may indeed, as this has turned into a huggy-feely thread! <hug>

    What were you purchasing?
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • ianmr65
    ianmr65 Posts: 596 Forumite
    neverdespairgirl wrote: »

    What were you purchasing?

    Non core / non stock / good not for resale. - All the stuff organisastions use but don't sell. Everything from marketing services, finacial services, equipment, recruitment, to contact centre hours, travel, cars, property, you name it, i've bought it.

    Hug Back!!
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