I've got a speeding ticket !!

Conor_3

goldspanners wrote: »

i would rather teach them good road safety skills.

Such as complying with the road traffic act, the one they agreed to abide by when they got their licence, and not exceeding the speed limit?

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

mookie wrote: »

As a parent and a motorist I cannot believe that some people feel a child should be responsible if a car is speeding.

Are you saying you're happy for children to run out into the road if traffic is doing 39.9mph in a 40mph zone?

Would you then be extremely upset if the same traffic was doing 40.1mph in the same zone?



A speed limit is a number on a stick, nothing more. It is irrelevant when discussing safe driving.

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

Conor wrote: »

Such as complying with the road traffic act, the one they agreed to abide by when they got their licence, and not exceeding the speed limit?

Why not tell us again, as a percentage of all KSIs how many are caused specifically by exceeding the posted limit?

IvanOpinion

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

Pedestrians are very very rarely hit by vehicles doing such speeds, since they have usually been hard on the brakes for several seconds.

years ago I remember readong an article that said the average impact speed for a car was about 11mph and the average speed impact for a motorbike was about 17mph .. the safety features of the car were designed to work at these sorts of speeds. Things have moved on since then and I would expect these now to be a bit higher.

Personally I'd rather children were taught how to use roads, rather than blame the motorist.

On one hand I agree and think that it is chronic negligence on the part of any parent not to have taught their child how to use and respect a road properly ... and that should be done BEFORE they kick them out and tell them to play outside on the street

On the other hand I have seen the effect on a cousin of mine who hit a child and severely injured him because he ran out on the road after a ball 9there was nothing, she was not speeding and it is accepted there was nothing she could have done and for weeks she kept blaming herself saying 'what if' etc.. if she had have been speeding there is no doubt the child would have been killed.

Ivan

IvanOpinion

Conor wrote: »

And outside of rush hour - say 8-11pm at night? Or on a weekend?

No doubt that there is the occasional speeder on the road but the vast majority of people are probably doing no more than 10mph over the posted limit. as far as I am aware speed was not the major factor in the majority of accidents along this road.

Why? You were taught in your driving lessons how and when to check the speedo. Surely you can tell how fast you're going by now - especially doing 40 in a 30?

actually no, the human brain is not good enough to accurately determine such speed differences .. often the indication is more to do with how the car is responding under the right foot and the sound of the engine.

However the road concerned is not flat and has a lot of reasonably steep falls and rises ... on several stretches your foot needs to be on the brake to maintain a speed under the limit. So now (outside of rush hour) instead of a reasonably smooth flow of traffic (albeit a little over the speed limit) the speed rises going downhill, people realise they are speeding, they brake to slow down, speed goes under limit, they speed up, they hit an uphill, speed slows down, change gear, accelerate up hill .. the speed is now all over the place and with people spending more time payng attention to their speedos I think the risk of an accident is now higher (albeit at a slower speed). Also not environmentally friendly at all.

Ivan

mookie

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

Are you saying you're happy for children to run out into the road if traffic is doing 39.9mph in a 40mph zone?

Would you then be extremely upset if the same traffic was doing 40.1mph in the same zone?



A speed limit is a number on a stick, nothing more. It is irrelevant when discussing safe driving.

40.1 in a 40 zone...not really a good example. :rolleyes:

The OP was supposedly doing 40MPH in a 30MPH zone, that type of speed does make a difference when it comes to safe driving.

goldspanners

CHRISSYG wrote: »

just to clarify i was responding to the post about france /germany !try to keep up !!

you quoted the post that mentioned the M25 maybe you should try keeping up.:rolleyes:

goldspanners

Conor wrote: »

Most weeks I do in excess of 2000 miles a week driving all over the country. I've done over 1.7 million miles since 1988 points and accident free. Do I always obey the speed limit? I'd be lying if I said I did. HOWEVER, I drive with my eyes open and observing what's going on around me which is why I don't miss bright yellow boxes stood on a pole or blatantly out of place looking vans.

I'm not the only one. So what are we doing right and you doing wrong?

well done,however most of your miles,you being a lorry driver will probably be cruising at 56 in a 70,so it will be hard for you to speed on the motorway when the government has restricted your speed.
i wonder how fast you would be going unrestricted?

goldspanners

Conor wrote: »

Such as complying with the road traffic act, the one they agreed to abide by when they got their licence, and not exceeding the speed limit?

road safety is everyones responsibility,not just the drivers.
children and parents too.

Conor_3

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

Why not tell us again, as a percentage of all KSIs how many are caused specifically by exceeding the posted limit?

I'm sorry, can you point out where I mentioned speed causing accidents because I think you'll find I've not and you'd be hard pressed to find any post anywhere where I have.

I've mentioned complying with the law which you agree to do when you get your licence.