I've got a speeding ticket !!

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nickmack wrote: »

There are various systems that change the speed limit depending on the weather. France has two speed limits depending if it's wet or dry.

The M25, parts of Germany and the US have automated systems that can adjust the limit according to conditions. These are enforced by fixed cameras.

YOU dont live in any of these countries so try concentrating on uk law and maybe you wont be caught out in future !

Markyt

CHRISSYG wrote: »

what would you prefer a sign that says 20mph in wet weather,30mph in dry weather and what ever you want after 10pm !

Finally some sense on a speed ticket thread! That is exactly the solution.

Riq

^^^ And who would pay for all these fancy signs?

Conor_3

bert&ernie wrote: »

Most speeding tickets never get anywhere near a court because the accused is bullied into accepting the fixed penalty. Is that simple enough for you?

Or it could be that they're actually guilty and they know it. How are they bullied?

Conor_3

goldspanners wrote: »

the police are acting as judge and jury by issuing the ticket.

i personally feel with the amount of revenue made by cameras,this should be put towards a special traffic court.
the police must have all thier evidence,collected properly as per regulations,then issue the offender with a court date,take it to court and then judged as an individual case.
surely someone doing 55mph in a 30 zone should get a higher fine than someone doing 35mph in a 30 zone?
so who are the police to decide this?

How are they acting as judge and jury? Are you not offered the chance to contest it?

It's a FIXED PENALTY. Do you not understand the meaning of the word "fixed"?

At the end of the day, getting a speeding ticket is ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to drive too fast. If you're so incompetent that you cannot drive at or below the speed limit, you should hand in your licence as you're obviously incapable of controlling your vehicle and are a danger to the rest of us.

Markyt

Riq wrote: »

^^^ And who would pay for all these fancy signs?

It could be paid for by some unusual tax, like road fund licence or fuel duty. Or simply diverting the scamera budget.

IvanOpinion

Conor wrote: »

How are they acting as judge and jury? Are you not offered the chance to contest it?

It's a FIXED PENALTY. Do you not understand the meaning of the word "fixed"?

At the end of the day, getting a speeding ticket is ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to drive too fast. If you're so incompetent that you cannot drive at or below the speed limit, you should hand in your licence as you're obviously incapable of controlling your vehicle and are a danger to the rest of us.

While I generally agree with you, my journey to work has just had 36 (no exaggeration) speed cameras installed on a stretch of road that is about 6 miles long. The road is generally very busy with traffic crawling along at rush hour.

The one thing I have noticed is that I am spending a lot more time watching my speedometer instead of the road ... which has caused me, and other drivers, to carry out emergency slow downs because we missed somebody else braking for a split second longer.

I reserve judgement at the minute about whether or not traffic flow is improved or made worse. All I know is that there are others roads in much more need of safety repairs and realignment than this main road.

Ivan

Hintza

Conor have you been elevated to the Sainthood yet?

One of the funniest stories I remember. There was an old Colonel in our village (you can imagine the type) who complained constantly to the police about speeding motorists until the police eventully popped down with a radar one day and he was one of the first caught. Just goes to show eh.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

Conor wrote: »

At the end of the day, getting a speeding ticket is ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to drive too fast. If you're so incompetent that you cannot drive at or below the speed limit, you should hand in your licence as you're obviously incapable of controlling your vehicle and are a danger to the rest of us.

No it isn't. There are a great many documented cases of faulty equipment, illegal or confusing signage, operator error, operator abuse, cloned plates, the list goes on.

A recent case where the local SCP was forced to pay back many hundreds of thousands of pounds in fines was where the speed limit was not correctly signed from a side-junction into a road that was manned by a speed camera. Is that voluntary?

How is it voluntary to obey the speed limit yet be faced with an operator that scans his device repeatedly across your vehicle to increase slip error and the chances of a successful 'speeding' readout?

Is it voluntary to be the victim of operators to use their equipment well beyond the manufacturer recommended range, within sight of other vehicles that may corrupt the returned signal?

Is it voluntary to drive past GATSO cameras that are only calibrated once per year, devices that rely on exact timing, inaccuracies which then may result in incorrect readings?

How many US states have banned the LTI20-20?

C_Ronaldo

headpin wrote: »

And while I'm ranting my pet subject is 20 mph limits in towns to avaoid injring or killing pedestrians. Another political con. How many pedestrians are chased down the pavement by speeding cars? Not many I would suggest. Pedestrians get injured generally because they do not use any road or common sense and step out in to the road without looking or being mindful of the conditions prevailing. If they get hit tough luck. If more money was spent eductaing pedestrians in road sense and the Highway Code they could look after their own health and safety instead of being featherbedded by the lefty and green car hating loonies. Or perhaps the real reason for these stupidly low limits is to raise more cash?

have you not seen that ad with the little girl and speed kills, the speed limits are there for a reason, would you rather your son/daughter dies from the injuries from a car hitting her at 40mph or your son/daughter being alive as they were hit by a car doing 20mph,