Fluoride in tap water

withabix

Are any of you anti-fluoride people smokers?

You'd better stop that then, as the bulk of the fluoride you absorb will be from your dirty fags!!

and not the water you drink!!

Make sure you don't eat any ocean fish either...

Toothsmith

Is that really fluoride you're talking about there withabix, or Mercury?? I knew fish have a bit of mercury in them, but wasn't aware of a too higher fluoride content.

Talking of fluoride content though, how many 'not in my water' people have tea?

A cup fo tea contains the fluoride equivalent of about 6 litres of theraputically fluoridated water.

Even accounting for the tea drinkers though, it's still very hard to get anywhere nearthe toxic doses.

geordie_joe

withabix wrote: »

Are any of you anti-fluoride people smokers?

I'm a smoker and drank water with fluoride in it for decades.

They had just about convinced me that it was the flouride in the water that was discolouring my teeth.

Now I know the truth, it was the fags all along.

withabix wrote: »

You'd better stop that then, as the bulk of the fluoride you absorb will be from your dirty fags!!

Not likely, I'm going to start a campaign to stop them putting fluoride in fags. They have no right to mass medicate fags!

I have a medical condition called an addiction, I have no choice but to buy fags, so they can't go putting medication in them. If I want to smoke fluoride I'll start lighting my Signal tubes!

I just don't believe it, all these years they have been saying fags are bad for you, and they are actually good for your teeth!

Campaign 2 - Fags are good for you, they contain fluoride
Campaign 3 - Start putting something in the fags to prevent cancer.

withabix, sorry for the joke post in reply to a very good point. I just couldn't resist it.

withabix

Toothsmith wrote: »

Is that really fluoride you're talking about there withabix, or Mercury?? I knew fish have a bit of mercury in them, but wasn't aware of a too higher fluoride content.

Talking of fluoride content though, how many 'not in my water' people have tea?

A cup fo tea contains the fluoride equivalent of about 6 litres of theraputically fluoridated water.

Even accounting for the tea drinkers though, it's still very hard to get anywhere nearthe toxic doses.

Fish have quite a high fluoride content, as they get through quite a lot of sea water.

As all rivers run to the sea, soluble minerals continuously concentrate in the sea (if you consider the water cycle results in the sea having a constant volume, which, if you ignore global warming, it does) - that's why it tastes 'salty'.

As a result, seawater has a fluoride content of approx 1.4ppm (or mg/l) - ie several times higher than the water which flows into the sea.

As marine fish 'tend' to live in the sea, they end up being between 2.5 and 10mg/kg of fluoride.

Spinach is about 8mg/kg, so best not eat too much of that either! There you go kids, you can tell mum that you're not eating that nice spinach she's put on your plate as it might actually kill you, or even worse, put marks on your teef.

geordie_joe

Toothsmith wrote: »

Is that really fluoride you're talking about there withabix, or Mercury?? I knew fish have a bit of mercury in them, but wasn't aware of a too higher fluoride content.

All the water we put fluoride in ends up in the sea, so the fish must be drinking it too.

That's why fishes don't need toothbrushes.

Not to mention all that toothpaste we spit down the sink.

Evil_Dan

Thats an interesting one on the smoking and fish fluoride levels, but hey, thats not what we're discussing i believe?

While i admit, it is rather interesting, i'd like to see a valid source for these points.

In particular the smoking and tea drinking ones, as that one i find the smoking option rather amusing, and the Tea one rather surprising.

The fish one however, i don't find particularly surprising, as minerals are washed down to the sea, via rivers.

And no site names like TS mentioned earlier...

geordie_joe

Evil_Dan wrote: »

Thats an interesting one on the smoking and fish fluoride levels, but hey, thats not what we're discussing i believe?

While i admit, it is rather interesting, i'd like to see a valid source for these points.

In particular the smoking and tea drinking ones, as that one i find the smoking option rather amusing, and the Tea one rather surprising.

The problem is most of the general public don't think fluoride is harmful, so any report, web site etc, would not include it in the list of things that are in tabacco.

If they did the pro smoking brigade would use it - smoking is good for you as it contains fluoride that helps keep your teeth healthy.

I did a search but all the sites I came up with were headed "A list of HARMFUL chemicals found in tobacco"

I couldn't find a list of chemicals found in tobacco. Nor could I find a list of non-harmful chemicals found in tobacco. Not that I was looking, just noticed there were none in the search results.

withabix

Evil_Dan wrote: »

Thats an interesting one on the smoking and fish fluoride levels, but hey, thats not what we're discussing i believe?

While i admit, it is rather interesting, i'd like to see a valid source for these points.

In particular the smoking and tea drinking ones, as that one i find the smoking option rather amusing, and the Tea one rather surprising.

The fish one however, i don't find particularly surprising, as minerals are washed down to the sea, via rivers.

And no site names like TS mentioned earlier...

The topic appears to be fluoride levels and unproven health effects. Some people are blinkered and seem to think they are getting it all from tap water.

The information on fluoride content in tea, fish, spinach and tobacco is widely available and is from chemical anlysis.

Evil_Dan

withabix wrote: »

The topic appears to be fluoride levels. Some people are blinkered and seem to think they are getting it all from tap water.

Some people are blinkered in believing that i would be interested if there are no sources to back up what you state.

Seems to me like it was levels in water. You decided to change it to levels elsewhere...

withabix

Evil_Dan wrote: »

Some people are blinkered in believing that i would be interested if there are no sources to back up what you state.

Seems to me like it was levels in water. You decided to change it to levels elsewhere...

I will provide the sources when I can be bothered. Fortunately, that isn't right now.

As the information I have used is all factual, it won't be difficult.

Make a cup of tea with your water and your fluoride intake will increase dramatically. The contribution from the tapwater itself pales into insignificance.

The daily water intake for many people will be largely from tea.

Coffee is quite high in fluoride as well.

In fact, if was originally green and comes from a plant...plants concentrate soluble minerals from the ground via their uptake of soil moisture and groundwater when they grow = high fluoride content.

Then there is meat....I read somewhere that cows, sheep and pigs eat green plants.