Won (Judgement by Default) - What to do next?

chuckles1066

I suspect he'll understand how the legal system works when he's incurred the additional costs of sending in the bailiffs and they find that all the business equipment is leased and thus ineligible for seizure..........

taless

jonesMUFCforever wrote: »

I believe this is no longer a simple case - more of a crusade bordering on a mad addiction.
I can see him now on the news - handcuffing himself on the tarmac to one of the planes to highlight his plight!
I hope I haven't given him any ideas!

I think your comments are most unfriendly and rude.

Someone who has been unfairly treated, and is trying to get back his justice. And you are giving such comments.

taless

chuckles1066 wrote: »

I suspect he'll understand how the legal system works when he's incurred the additional costs of sending in the bailiffs and they find that all the business equipment is leased and thus ineligible for seizure..........

Yes I know that is definitely a possibility, and I know that too from research at the Moneyclaim website.

I am just seeking clarification about why posters in this forum make it to be so hard to enforce judgement on foreign companies in the UK.

jonesMUFCforever

What we have repeatedly advised you is that it is not worth the hassle for a mere £110.
Don't you have a life? or is it so unhappy that you think this will make it better?

If you think we were rude, sorry, but I have to advise again give this up now.

taless

This is not something that is taking up my life - more like say 10 or 20 mins of my day when I need to make decisions.

A doctor wouldn't advise someone to stop smoking unless there are good reasons behind it - say less risk of lung cancer, stroke etc.

Using the same token, I am just really interested in knowing why just because a company is foreign domiciled, it is so hard for consumers to take action against them. Again, I repeat, I am interested in knowing WHY it is so hard to enforce judgement on them. I have mentioned that they have a UK address, their office is real and physical, and I somehow don't believe out of such a huge office, everything is on lease and nothing is seizable.

If there are really good reasons like say their embassy will come and protect them from the bailiffs, for example; or if there is an international law which grants foreign airlines immunity from local laws - then I am happy to give up. All I am really interested in knowing the WHY behind the difficulty.

facingthefuture

Hi there, I don't understand why the op should not continue. £110 is a lot of money and if the company is so arrogant to not even respond, well I think they at the very least deserve negative publicity. I understand the op would incur extra charges if he employed balliffs, could he do it himself and charge for his services on top? Also this term 'crusade', sometimes a person is just aggrieved and wanting to do something about it regardless of its apparent small cost benefits others who are being similarly conned.

chuckles1066

facingthefuture wrote: »

I understand the op would incur extra charges if he employed balliffs, could he do it himself and charge for his services on top?

No, it has to be a Certificated Bailiff.

trainee_bean_counter

Hi,
I m new here. So pls excuse if any breach of rules if i say anything out of order.

I think you should carry on. Money is not always an important factor. You can't buy the joy you got after winning that judgment order . Similarly u can't compare the sense of achievements you would get after raiding them with bailiff. However you need to be cautious not get obsessed with it and spend all your fortune in legal cost.

In my view the best thing would be to contact a local newspaper or even a national newspaper, tell the story, have a picture of bailiff knocking on their door and that will cause them enough pain to make it worth all your effort. Even if you don't get your money, at least there will be a story in newspaper about how helpless UK consumers are to foreign companies and might stir a very important debate.

I had problems with Tesco insurance but I got these blood sucker to compensate me just by one phone call to FSA.

Hope it helps.

Moe

blindman

Slack day at work so I looked into the background of this.:rolleyes:

Correct me if I'm wrong but this all stems from this thread

Because of a delay in departing you missed your next onward flight that was booked independently on another airline.
You still got to the destination but had to pay £105.

In that thread you admit that a friend advised you that as it was not a through ticket you would have problems.
You also admit that you did not have travel insurance for that trip :eek:

You were advised that you were most probably not entitled to the money back as it really wasn't Etihad liability for the onward journey.

You then asked about bringing the foreign company to court and were advised it would be a waste of time (especially for £110)..

Now having 'won' that case you are asking for advise as to how to get the money.

In each and every thread you have been given sound advice, which you have totally ignored as it obviously is not what you want to hear.

IMHO you were NOT entitled to any money from Etihad for the connecting journey.
Etihad T&C's
IF you had bought travel insurance you may have been able to claim.

You are wasting yours and everyone's time.
I can see why Etihad do not respond to your emails.:rolleyes:

My advice-which you will ignore of course -:D

Give it up, move on and learn from the experience.

Out of interest
:How much was the fare on the trip?
London Heathrow to Malaysia + the Low Cost Carrier Airline from Kuala Lumpur to ??

as your statement

but feel absolutely disappointed that £105 just got into the bin like that - I'm a student and this money is hard to come by

intrigues me.

BTW Single trip insurance would probably have been £30

taless

Thanks for your research into my problems.

I think I need to make my position clear. I only understood about the 'one-ticket' issue after the incident, not before.

When I was in Abu Dhabi airport, there were three flights that were stranded - one to Kuala Lumpur, one to Heathrow and one to somewhere I couldn't remember.

After we were offloaded from the plane, those of us with onward connections went to the Guest Transfers desk. The 2 Etihad officers at the counter rebooked us on our destinations - I vaguely remember there were some travelling to Kuala Lumpur, then connecting onwards to Sydney (on Malaysia Airlines) and will misconnect due to the delay - Etihad offered to just take them directly from Abu Dhabi to Sydney on Etihad instead.

Me and a few others has destinations that are not served by Etihad. The officer there looks very helpful - he helped us to book our flights to our destinations to ensure that the seats are reserved when we reach Kuala Lumpur, asked us to pay for the tickets first, and told us to e-mail Etihad Guest Affairs to get our compensation. The other officer then offered us a voucher such that we could go to a hotel to call whatever hotels or friends or families that we will be arriving late. I initially asked for the officer to give me a written promise that a compensation will be given, but he just reassured me and said not to worry, just e-mail and it will be fine. As both of the officers looked helpful and genuine, I did not insisted on the written promise (I know I am foolish on this part).

Admittedly I did not read the Conditions of Carriage before the flight. But even if I have read the C&Cs, with the 2 officers giving these reassurances and being so helpful, will I not believe their words 'have precedence' over the C&Cs?

The delay was also very unreasonable in my opinion - due to 'too many' passengers on board??? Why is it for such an administrative error by the airline, the passenger has to be faulted?

About the travel insurance - if you could find any travel insurance that offers compensation for the flight misconnection itself (not just to pay hotel and accommodation bills), do let me know, I will be very interested to know for future travel.

I understand many of you may feel I may be overly persistent, but please remember I am a victim here. I understand I am rather naive in a few things, but I am in no means trying to accuse someone of something that did not happen, or robbing some company using the law. I am honest in detailing what happened at Abu Dhabi - I could not help but feel utterly deceived by what I was told at Abu Dhabi and what is happening at the moment.