'Are cheap chicks chic?' Poll discussion & results

Tindella_2

JCD_Capulet wrote: »

If I don't eat chicken I'll have no meat in my diet at all. Not all cheap chicken is treated in the way depicted on the tv program, it was showing worst case senario type farms.
Financially I can't afford 'premium' chicken (DFD estimated around december 08 btw) so I can take the cheaper option without any marks on my conscience.

Well, whatever helps you sleep nights, believe. And now we see that you didn't even watch the programmes - so you'd already made your mind up that conditions were fabricated! Shame on you! You could spend your £5 a lot better - try cooking bacon - about 75p for a big pack and you can make lots of different meals with that - go round the farms and get some free range eggs - cheaper than buying them in the supermarket.

xanderd

animal welfare goes beyond taste or price. meat should be a luxury good but the industry has greedily made it into a convenience food to make money.

Many people are still ignorant of what goes on. I dont mind killing an animal to survive like in times gone by - the animal lives a free life, is quickly slaightered then every part of its body is used to help people to live. What actually happens now is grossly different to this.

You wouldnt torture your cat or dog would you? so why chickens pigs or lambs??

I recognise many people are on tight budgets but there are plenty of affordable options like having meat once or twice a week instead of every day, and having other foods in between.

I cant understand how a human being can inflict suffering on a sentient creature, let alone millions of intelligent animals every week, most of which are injected full of chemicals, tortured in tiny cages with inneffective electrocution equippment, then end up being wasted in stock piles or expiring on the supermarket shelf.

ritchiewags

The current production of cheap chickens is unsustainable and will only exist whilst supermarkets are competing for market share and the resources for industrialised farming exist. In a few (or maybe some) years time it will not be possible to produce any food as cheap as today. Avoid this price shock and start buying sustainably produced food at sustainable prices.

xanderd

JCD_Capulet wrote: »

LOL! Are you trying to say that I shouldn't have a clear conscience, that I should feel bad for consuming cheap chicken? I really hope not because I find it hillarious. At the end of the day I'm living on the bread line and I'll eat what I have to to keep myself fed. My life is far more important to me than that of a chicken.

I find it sickening that someone would fine animal cruelty 'hilarious'. This is the worst kind of ignornace. there are plenty of affordable foods that dont involve animal torture - what your basically saying is 'i like the taste and if i plug my ears and shut my eyes no one can tell me any different'. Implying that you will die if you stop buying value chicken is just ridicukous melodrama.

RandomCake

Look, if people have little money to buy food with then let them buy what they can afford, stop trying to make them feel bad for eating cheap chicken. A person's standard of life must come before that of a dumb bird.

If you feel that people with small budgets should be eating expensive chicken so badly, start your own not for profit chicken farm and let them have it at cost.

And to the person who said that both the free range and the battery chickens are killed in around 40 days, not so. Free range chicken grows much slower and is ready in around 120 days.

Sexy_Em

I ordered 3x free range chicken breasts & 1x free range turkey breasts from tesco to be delivered last night...

ALL of which was replaced by their Healthy Living brand??!!! :mad:

I sent them back of course because I'm stickin by my guns.

The demand for free range is either really high and they haven't clicked on and stocked up, or they are trying to be clever and disuade people from buying it

I'll nip into morrissons on my way home from work instead :rotfl:

Badger_Lady

Sexy_Em wrote: »

The demand for free range is either really high and they haven't clicked on and stocked up, or they are trying to be clever and disuade people from buying it

The problem is that demand has suddenly increased as a result of the campaign, and the supermarkets can't magic extra chickens out of thin air!

It's the start of a shift - if people continue to demand free range, farmers will shift their focus and grow more free range birds to supply the supermarkets... it's certainly not something that can be changed in an instant!

If anything, it's a good sign Good luck with your shopping - I hope you can still find some :T

JCD_Capulet

xanderd wrote: »

I find it sickening that someone would fine animal cruelty 'hilarious'. This is the worst kind of ignornace. there are plenty of affordable foods that dont involve animal torture - what your basically saying is 'i like the taste and if i plug my ears and shut my eyes no one can tell me any different'. Implying that you will die if you stop buying value chicken is just ridicukous melodrama.

No, xanderd, I don't find animal cruelty hillarious and if you could point out where I said I do find it so then please feel free to point it out to me. I found the notion that I ought to feel bad about eating farmed chicken hillarious. Well, no, I'm afraid I wont, no matter how many folk dissagree with me. I'll eat it with a clear conscience and sleep on a full stomach.

I suggest the tv program has led you to jumping on a bandwagon here xanderd (well, you and some other forumers more than likely). Were you aware of how chickens were raised, farmed and culled before the TV show? Are you aware of the diferent types of slaughter and machinery used to cull chickens? What about Defra, have you heard of them? The reason I ask is because I've been taught from an early age (around 6) how the meat on our plates comes to be and have been taught through my working life, in more depth about the subject too. I've been educated on the subject of farming for the best part of twenty years so I'm fully aware of the choices I make in my consumption of meat.

And no, I didn't say I'd die if I didn't eat chicken. I said "my life is far more important to me than that of a chicken" By which I meant I get a far better nights sleep knowing I'll have food in my stomach and the energy to get through the day as opposed to sitting around bleating about the treatment of chicken. Over 46 billion broiler chickens are slaughtered for their meat every year, they are single handedly the worlds most farmed animal. I have better things to do with my time than have concern for 46 billion blooming chickens.

xanderd

JCD_Capulet wrote: »

No, xanderd, I don't find animal cruelty hillarious and if you could point out where I said I do find it so then please feel free to point it out to me. I found the notion that I ought to feel bad about eating farmed chicken hillarious. Well, no, I'm afraid I wont, no matter how many folk dissagree with me. I'll eat it with a clear conscience and sleep on a full stomach.

I suggest the tv program has led you to jumping on a bandwagon here xanderd (well, you and some other forumers more than likely). Were you aware of how chickens were raised, farmed and culled before the TV show? Are you aware of the diferent types of slaughter and machinery used to cull chickens? What about Defra, have you heard of them? The reason I ask is because I've been taught from an early age (around 6) how the meat on our plates comes to be and have been taught through my working life, in more depth about the subject too. I've been educated on the subject of farming for the best part of twenty years so I'm fully aware of the choices I make in my consumption of meat.

And no, I didn't say I'd die if I didn't eat chicken. I said "my life is far more important to me than that of a chicken" By which I meant I get a far better nights sleep knowing I'll have food in my stomach and the energy to get through the day as opposed to sitting around bleating about the treatment of chicken. Over 46 billion broiler chickens are slaughtered for their meat every year, they are single handedly the worlds most farmed animal. I have better things to do with my time than have concern for 46 billion blooming chickens.

im not on any bandwagon. Although i find it excellent that tv programs like these are raising awareness (so many people dont know chickne nuggets come from animals), I have been vegetarian for many years so I dont eat any meat for ethical reasons.

46 billion is a huge number. Thats exactly my point. Billions of innocent intelligent creatures which can feel pain and suffering? I have time to worry about that, and I'm glad others do. I would hate to think what the world would be like if no one in the world could be bothered to worry about past issues which were at one time socially aceptable, such as childhood obesity, smoking, racism etc.

Tiglet

The term "cheap chicken" is something of an oxymoron. If they are two for a fiver (small ones were more like £7 in Sainsbury's today), then an alternative would be to buy:

a kilo of rice - about 45p
a kilo of pasta - about £1
a kilo of dry beans - about £1.20

The cooked weight of this lot would be at least 5 kilos, all of which is edible, unlike the chicken.

The remaining £2.35 of the price of two chickens would buy tomatoes, onions, oil, spices, and all the other ingredients needed to turn the above into a feast that would make the chicken seem seriously paltry.

I would recommend that anyone who buys cheap chicken because they can't afford food that isn't cruel to animals tries this approach. Save money, and save chickens at the same time!