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Magnetic bracelets , where to get one ?

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  • bpyoung
    bpyoung Posts: 3,008 Forumite
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    I acknowledge them - I just don't think they're very good. There's plenty of discussion, take this snippet for example:
    The authors claim that "around a third of participants in the standard and dummy groups were correct in their beliefs about their bracelet". However, looking at the data it appears that 54% of the standard (strong) magnet group believed they had the real magnet, while 47% of the dummy group correctly guessed (or worked out) that they had the dummy magnet.

    Overall, a highly significant number of the patients correctly determined which group they were in (54% of the standard magnet group thought they had the magnet, while only 38% of the weak group and 16% of the dummy group thought they had a real magnet). Furthermore, the results show that the main reason why they thought so was because they detected the magnetic force (32% of the standard group, 20% of the weak group and 6% of the dummy group).

    It therefore seems likely that the "significant" results are due to the placebo effect, caused by the patients noticing the magnetic force.
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  • lipidicman
    lipidicman Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    Indeed, but as I have said, large scale trials are just not going to happen any time soon. These studies are about as good as you are going to get.

    As a pragmatic approach, I can't see the harm in trying. Even though I dont believe that it will work, I will not state that it wont:
    bpyoung wrote:
    'there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that these things work. Complete quackery.'
    'Honestly, these things simply DO NOT WORK.'
    'take a scientific approach rather than trusting in a load of silly mumbo-jumbo.'
    'Magnets don't alleviate pain, simple as that.'

    I appreciate that this is just a forum, and I am often flippant here, but I really hope that your thesis contained more reasoned arguments!
  • bpyoung
    bpyoung Posts: 3,008 Forumite
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    lipidicman wrote:
    I appreciate that this is just a forum, and I am often flippant here, but I really hope that your thesis contained more reasoned arguments!

    I can't remember, I've managed to erase those horrible few months from my memory!

    I guess I'm just not as open-minded as some people think one should be.
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  • lipidicman
    lipidicman Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    bpyoung wrote:
    I can't remember, I've managed to erase those horrible few months from my memory!

    I can certainly relate to that. Mine was nearly the end of me!
  • Fairdo_2
    Fairdo_2 Posts: 442 Forumite
    Sounds like the start of a beautiful friendship!

    I would have commented on the thread itself, but my lack of qualifications mean I'm completely out of your league.

    I would just reflect the point, that if someone is in acute pain, then it could be worth trying and if it does not cost too much and the placebo effect works rather than the bracelet itself, then it has worked, whether we believe in it or not.

    As long as it does not actually cause any harm to the body.

    It is simple in my simple world.
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  • Cat72
    Cat72 Posts: 2,398 Forumite
    Right Im not intereasted in scientific conclusions because in this day and age science has let me, and several other suffers of pain and diseases down.I was personally recommended this by someone whos opinion I trust and believe in.Yip others are right if a placebo affect works great it works. I dont give a fig if there is a scentific journal says it works or not. Im more intereasted if I think it works. After wasting a fortune on painkillers which dont work and are damaging my stomach, I would be willing to try something new.My doctor cant help, the hospital cant help, pysiotherapists cant help meanwhile at the age of 33 I could not physically get out of bed this morning because my knees were too sore.Last year I was on my horse . So my original question was were could I get a magnetic band from a reliable, good priced source .
    BPYOUNG - What would you do if for instance you woke up tomorrow and could not walk ? 12 months later with all the treatments the NHS offers you still cant walk. A good friend tells you of a treatment , do you quote scentific facts at them or try ?
  • Bossyboots
    Bossyboots Posts: 6,760 Forumite
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    I can't find the name of the company I got mine from. They sell in our local shopping centre and have also online. I will keep looking and hopefully find them. They come up as Into Bonsai on my credit card bill but I can't find them on Google.
  • Ted_Hutchinson
    Ted_Hutchinson Posts: 7,142 Forumite
    Cat72 wrote:
    So my original question was were could I get a magnetic band from a reliable, good priced source .
    IF I was considering buying one of these I think I might buy from Worldofmagnets
    partly because they say they Provide a totally risk free money back guarantee.
    And partly because their website appears to be based on a more scientific understanding than the others I have looked at. These would not be appropriate for my condition so my interest is somewhat limited and you should not regard my suggestion of the above company as a personal recommendation or approval of the powers of magnetic therapy. My posting of the scientific links earlier was simply to show that there is some scientific basis for support for their use.
    It would be helpful to others if you posted back on the performance of
    a)the company you finally purchased from and
    b) the benefit or otherwise you obtained from the magnetic therapy.
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