We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
DCB Legal, UKPC court claim, DEFENDED
Hi All,
Thank you so much for all your efforts on this forum.
I have already stated that I'm going to despute all charges on MCOL and I have until 14/10/2026 to submit a defence against the claim below.
I'm planning to submit the 10 points defence in the 2nd post of the pinned Template defence suggestion thread "the one that starts with: The Claimant’s sparse case lacks specificity and does not comply with CPR 16.4, 16PD3 or 16PD7…etc"
I'd appreciate some help with my third point please. I'm planning to submit the third point as follows:
"3- It is denied that the Claimant's signage was prominent, clear, or legible enough to form a binding contract. The terms and the parking charge amount were displayed in a small font that was difficult to read from a distance. Furthermore, the incident occurred in the evening under poor or absent lighting conditions, rendering the small print completely illegible to a motorist. For a contract to be formed, terms must be prominent and transparent, as established by the Supreme Court in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis and the standard set in Lord Denning’s "Red Hand Rule" (Spurling v Bradshaw). Because the core terms were hidden in small print and obscured by the darkness, there was no mutual agreement, no "meeting of the minds," and therefore no contract was ever entered into by the driver."
Any suggestions?
Comments
-
I have successfully defended a case on poor signage before. In my case the signs were obscured by commercial bins. I took photos and shortly after my successful defence they move the bin. So if you have photo's etc then that would strengthen your case.
3 -
No evidence is submitted with a defence
Delete the double air quotes, " ( not allowed on MCOL but I counted 4 ) use single ones, ' instead
You must deny the POC, the POC are based on an alleged overstay, so refute the allegation
The POC is a common generic POC seen in hundreds of DCB LEGAL cases, so have a look at what other recent cases have said in their paragraph 3
And
Decide on your short , concise ending to paragraph 2
1 -
Thank you for your answer.
The problem is, I did overstay by about 15 mins but I genuinely didn't know at the time that there was a £100 fine. idk how to refute the overstaying without lying.
My point 2 is going to be:
"The allegation(s) are vague and liability is denied for the sum claimed, or at all. The delay in bringing proceedings lies with the Claimant, making retrieving material evidence difficult, which is highly prejudicial. The Defendant has little knowledge of events, save as set out below and to admit that they were the registered keeper and driver."
0 -
There was no fine, just an invoice for £100 for the alleged breach of the parking contract on that private property
You did not deliberately overstay, you only found out after the fact, so you may know now but had no idea what any time constraints were at the time of the incident
Nobody is telling you to lie , but to look at what other people have used for their paragraph 3 in similar situations
You paragraph 2 is OK, except it has double air quotes in it , despite me warning you that " are not allowed on MCOL
1 -
More like the following
2 The allegation(s) are vague and liability is denied for the sum claimed, or at all. The delay in bringing proceedings lies with the Claimant, making retrieving material evidence difficult, which is highly prejudicial. The Defendant has little knowledge of events, save as set out below and to admit that they were the registered keeper and driver.
3 The Claimant is required to prove the contractual terms allegedly displayed at the site on the material date, including the maximum permitted stay, the circumstances in which a charge would become payable, and the adequacy and prominence of the signs. The Defendant does not admit that the Claimant’s signage created a sufficiently clear and enforceable contract on the terms alleged.
1 -
Thanks once again mate.
The " in my second post were just for use here within the forum, I won't be posting them on MCOL as per your advice.
I have revised my 3rd point to the following:
3- It is denied that the Claimant's signage was prominent, clear, or legible enough to form a binding contract. The terms and the parking charge amount were displayed in a small font that was difficult to read from a distance. Furthermore, the incident occurred in the evening under poor or absent lighting conditions, rendering the small print completely illegible to a motorist. Consequently, the Defendant had no knowledge of any applicable time constraints at the material time of the incident, nor did they deliberately overstay; this was only discovered retrospectively after the fact. For a contract to be formed, terms must be prominent and transparent, as established by the Supreme Court in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis and the standard set in Lord Denning’s 'Red Hand Rule' (Spurling v Bradshaw). Because the core terms were hidden in small print, obscured by the darkness, and entirely unknown to the driver at the time, there was no mutual agreement, no 'meeting of the minds,' and therefore no contract was ever entered into by the driver.
1 -
Looks fine.
Doesn't matter what you put really, because there will be no hearing.
🙂
PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD2 -
The deadline is never on a weekend or bank holiday, so 4pm yesterday was the actual deadline, not Saturday
2 -
That makes me 7 minutes & 36 seconds late!
1
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 355.8K Banking & Borrowing
- 254.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 456.2K Spending & Discounts
- 248.3K Work, Benefits & Business
- 605.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 179K Life & Family
- 263.8K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards



