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Fine tuning pension options to avoid HRT
My plan has always been to have around £36,000- 39,000 a year after tax in today’s money.
Given that, and that a chunk of my income was monthly drawdown with 25% tax free I thought I was well under higher rate tax and didn’t pay it a lot of attention.
However, I have decided to take an annuity with half my DC pot, in addition taking my NHS 2015 pension early. I have other DB pensions. This is a change from earlier plans brought on because I realised I could get a higher annuity than I thought and I was worrying much more about potential market crashes than I did in the accumulation phase.
In total I have £16,800 in CPI linked pension, £5,250 in CPI linked capped at 5% and will have an annuity of £7950 which will grow by 3%. (slight rounding). The CPI ones go up im April, the annuity on the anniversary.
I am 60 and I already qualify for full state pension at 67, “You can’t improve your pension anymore”.
This means I have a before tax income of £30k a year now and will have £42k a year in guaranteed pension income, plus what I drawdown.
I was planning to carry on drawing down £6,000 a year from the £200,000 remaining in my DC scheme and I have enough in cash savings and TFLS to mimic the state pension income until it kicks in.
This gives me a solid guaranteed income, enough to not worry about volatility or someone badly damaging the world economy with tariffs or wars. However it leaves flexibility and something for my spouse should I be the first to go, they are 15 years older than me.
I have realised that with the current freeze on personal allowances, by the time I get my state pension, I should still be below the HRT threshold with my regular income but adding in the drawdown I might be over.
- The logical workaround is to overdraw from the DC pot between now and my state pension starting and put the excess in a stocks and shares ISA. I can the take cash from that instead of drawdown, once SP kicks in. Can anyone see an issue with that.
- Does anyone have any gotchas around fine tuning withdrawals to stay just under higher rate tax? For example, I can see that an unexpected Nationwide fare share might need an extra charity donation to stop me going from £1000 of interest to £500.
Of course if inflation ticks back up or wage inflation is particularly high and the state pension goes up a lot, I could go over HRT with my core pensions, but that would be something I would have to live with now I have taken this direction.
Comments
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What you suggest makes sense, take what you can out of your pension at 20% tax before your state pension kicks in.
Remember that you can still pay £3,600 gross into your pension every year. Might be useful if you want to stay in the 20% tax bracket. Not that making a charitable donation to achieve the same goal isn't a good thing.
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I’m withdrawing up to the HRT band and paying into S&S ISAs just as you suggest, to make use of the 20% band before I reach SPA. Can’t see any downside to doing that personally.
I don’t mind paying HRT on withdrawals after I reach SPA but I’ll take out as much as I can at 20% before I get there.
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I used the TFLS and long term savings to build up a large S&S ISA income portfolio generating 6% tax free income. WIthout this I would be well into the 40% tax band.
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Yes, I am already paying £240 a month back in to the pension and don’t expect to change that.
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