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Battery performance specs

Regarding BESS does anyone on here have any good experience of batteries cold weather performance and thus recommendations.

I know Screwdriver has posted of Tesla Powerwall low temperature specs but wondered of there are any others that are good in that respect. My Pylons are speced only to zero for charging but -10 discharge.

Car LiFeP04 versions are self heating ( their preconditioning) but BESS used in cold climates cope somehow, such as in Scandinavia, maybe only through heating too? Any info welcomed thanks.

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  • debitcardmayhem
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    edited 6 February at 6:37PM

    Don't know much of the science behind it but my Givenergy ones suggest to run a winter conditioning when the temp is 2°C

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    Best bet is a sodium battery as they work down to minus 30 without heating. The only one available at the moment is from Eleven. You may need to use their inverter as the characteristics a bit different.

    I'm sure there will be more sodium batteries, soon, as CATL, amongst others, are now going into mass production for the automotive market.

  • QrizB
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    My Pylons are speced only to zero for charging but -10 discharge.

    Those are the "standard" temperatures quoted for unheated LFP cells.

    Regarding BESS does anyone on here have any good experience of batteries cold weather performance and thus recommendations.

    Sorry, what follows desn't realy answer your question.

    My cheap Fogstar battery is indoors, and so shouldn't be troubled by cold weather 🙂

    I know some more recent Fogstar batteries include heaters.

    Or, if you've got a battery in an unheated shed, it shouldn't be too hard to add a frost 'stas and a low-wattage electrical heater like eg. this:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B095X7V1TH

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    The All in One 2 appears to perform slightly better than its predecessor did, but GE's aftersales/customer/ tech support have fallen off a cliff.

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  • NedS
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    No issues with my Tesla PW3 this winter, but we do not get really cold temperatures so around zero is the coldest it's had to contend with this winter. Charging starts slower than the advertised 5kWh maximum in colder weather and speeds up, then slows again for the last few percent. I have had no issues fully recharging a single PW3 in my 3 hour cheap rate window (Cosy tariff).

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