About to start a new job a week on Monday but.......

PierremontQuaker03

Hi all, just to give you all an update (if anyone is interested ) that job offer...did not come thru - maybe I was over confident it would - but another candidate must have impressed. Anyway my options are:
1) Take the new job and give it a go (the most sensible and obvious option)
2) Option 2 - take my chances and maybe go temping and wait for another opportunity to come thru

I do need the money as I am in the process of a house renovation (in hindsight wish I had never started with all of the issues at work).
In terms of the job offered it is not a bad job - it is a good title and great to have on my CV (I can put on that I am reporting to the CFO etc et) as it takes my experience and skills down another pathway.

I think another comment is, once I have started with this company I feel trapped to stay there for a while - as it would not look good going for interviews when just starting a new job somewhere else. Whereas say if I did not start the job and tried my luck and could come from the angle, I left my job to start a new one, but the job offer got pulled, and my replacement had already been recruited so I had to leave.
Waffled ended

Savvy_Sue

My worry with NOT starting but saying that the job was pulled when it wasn't is that the world of work can be small, and you don't know who knows who. 

So say you don't start this job and get a new one in a month. Your new manager happens to know this CFO, and one day he's having a moan about this chap who pulled out, "and I'd even rung him to discuss the changes that were happening and he was fine." And somehow your name gets mentioned: "yeah, that's a PITA isn't it. This chap who's just started had a break before joining us, he'd have suited you too, your loss that he was still available for us." Or whatever.

If your new job realise that job you say was "pulled" wasn't, that you just pulled out, your reputation is shattered. You've lied. And they don't have to give any reason for sacking you. 

People do start jobs, and leave quickly if it's clear it's not the right job. "Not a good fit / not the job I was led to expect" both valid reasons for leaving a job quickly.

Not to mention how long it might take to land a new job. I didn't get the impression you could withstand a long gap.

PierremontQuaker03

Savvy_Sue said:

My worry with NOT starting but saying that the job was pulled when it wasn't is that the world of work can be small, and you don't know who knows who. 

So say you don't start this job and get a new one in a month. Your new manager happens to know this CFO, and one day he's having a moan about this chap who pulled out, "and I'd even rung him to discuss the changes that were happening and he was fine." And somehow your name gets mentioned: "yeah, that's a PITA isn't it. This chap who's just started had a break before joining us, he'd have suited you too, your loss that he was still available for us." Or whatever.

If your new job realise that job you say was "pulled" wasn't, that you just pulled out, your reputation is shattered. You've lied. And they don't have to give any reason for sacking you. 

People do start jobs, and leave quickly if it's clear it's not the right job. "Not a good fit / not the job I was led to expect" both valid reasons for leaving a job quickly.

Not to mention how long it might take to land a new job. I didn't get the impression you could withstand a long gap.

Fair comment - something definitely worth considering - option 2 is high risk / and almost borderline stupid I know from the outside looking in.

mlz1413

Option 1

You don't have anything concrete or better to go to and going temp-ing means you will constantly be asked why you left your old job.

Also if you need the money just buckle down for a year. Also use this year to do your renovations and then review your situation this Xmas.

Grumpy_chap

PierremontQuaker03 said:

1) Take the new job and give it a go (the most sensible and obvious option)

This
Especially as you are now more able to see the positives of the job
Oh, and you need the money.

Alternatives might leave you with no income and you would likely not be eligible for benefits as you would be deemed "voluntarily unemployed" once you declare you had a job that you chose not to start.

Do not go down the rabbit hole of lying to explain an anomaly in the CV should one arise as you will only end up tripping over yourself and worse than if you had just been honest.

Take the job, give it your best shot and commit for at least a year.  Then review the success or look to move again.

MyRealNameToo

PierremontQuaker03 said:

I think another comment is, once I have started with this company I feel trapped to stay there for a while - as it would not look good going for interviews when just starting a new job somewhere else. Whereas say if I did not start the job and tried my luck and could come from the angle, I left my job to start a new one, but the job offer got pulled, and my replacement had already been recruited so I had to leave.
Waffled ended

The reality is that everyone is different, different priorities, different thought patterns etc, you can tie yourself in knots trying to second guess how others will perceive things and I bet you that in 75% of times at least I could give a convincing alternative view that at least a reasonable proportion would agree with. 

Sometimes jobs dont work out, even if there hasn't been a change of personnel between interview and starting. You have a few jobs with decent tenure and suddenly one with short tenure then its easily explainable that the job didnt match up to expectations, you didnt gel with the new boss etc. Most will be ok with that. Now if you have 8 jobs on the trot where you have 2-3 months in the job before quitting then some may think the problem is more you than the situation. 

monkey-fingers

Rather than look to get yourself out ASAP, why not throw yourself into the job and see if you like it?

I once started a job I really wasn't sure about. I stayed there 29 years.

PierremontQuaker03

monkey-fingers said:

Rather than look to get yourself out ASAP, why not throw yourself into the job and see if you like it?

I once started a job I really wasn't sure about. I stayed there 29 years.

Similar thing happened to me also, started a temp job, was there 10 years.

Uriziel

Maybe he wanted you to report into him directly because he does not like the finance manager and wants to see if you're competent enough to replace them? I think you stressed yourself out over nothing. You also clearly have gotten another job offer very easily so you could have just stayed on to see what it entails. Reporting into higher up people is usually a good thing. Higher up people usually don't do much and actively look out for competent people to surround themselves with so they can push work on them to continue their comfortable lifestyle. If he is new he probably was trying to find a right hand man with a brain but this is irrelevant now as you have moved on.

mlz1413

Did you start thr new job?
If so how was your 1st week?