We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

HMRC recycling & tax efficiency

Well as the username suggests I’m starting a new chapter and coming to terms with the HMRC minefield whilst trying to be tax efficient.

As a background I’m 42 and left the forces after 22 years with the majority on the 75 pension scheme. I’ve taken maximum commutation to reduce the tax burden so I’m receiving a £65k tax free lump sum and £12k a year until age 55 when the commutation cancels out and also the accumulated CPI increases kick in. 

For the last few years I’ve being paying £12k NET into a SIPP. the mortgage is very low and I’ll pay off the remaining balance (around £8k) which will be 12 months of payments with the lump sum when the fixed term ends in April 26. I’ve just started a new job circa £70k so with the EDP that creates a taxable income of £82k. It has a DB pension but also the ability to salary sacrifice through AVCs. I’m looking at the moment to contribute the maximum through AVCs whilst preserving the majority of the lump sum by depositing into S&S ISA/LISA over this FY & the next & cash savings. I don’t intend to make any sudden unprecedented large deposits into my long established SIPP. 

I appreciate this is a nice problem to have but don’t want to fall foul of the system, how much could I salary sacrifice into a new pension without triggering an investigation? Is there any other considerations I need to be aware of?

Comments

  • SVaz
    SVaz Posts: 861 Forumite
    500 Posts Second Anniversary
    Congratulations.
    I’m 60 today and start getting my AFPS 75 pension hopefully very soon. 

    As far as I’m aware,  having your forces pension and lump sum doesn’t count towards pension recycling.   You have absolutely no choice in receiving either so it isn’t a concious effort to recycle.
    My own RAF pension will be going straight into my Sipp,  the lump sum into an ISA to pay the mortgage off next year when the fix ends. 
  • The most important limitation is the Annual Allowance (currently £60K or your earnings whichever is less) which is the limit to the amount you will get tax relief on for the year - although you can use unused amounts from previous 3 years. 

    The £60K includes all contributions to DC pensions (including employers') and the calculated growth for the year in DB pensions (bit trickier to work out).
  • SVaz said:
    Congratulations.
    I’m 60 today and start getting my AFPS 75 pension hopefully very soon. 

    As far as I’m aware,  having your forces pension and lump sum doesn’t count towards pension recycling.   You have absolutely no choice in receiving either so it isn’t a concious effort to recycle.
    My own RAF pension will be going straight into my Sipp,  the lump sum into an ISA to pay the mortgage off next year when the fix ends. 
    Thanks & congratulations on the big birthday.

    My understanding of the pension is the annual monthly payments are declared & treated as earned income with income tax due but not NI. However, as the lump sum is tax free that part can fall foul of the pension recycling rules.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.3K Life & Family
  • 261.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.