last employment did not deduct pension from final pay slip and wants me to pay it back to them

lilac_dawn

Not sure if this is work or pensions but does this soud about right: I left a job in July, final pay was August. In mid Sept they said they hadn't deducted my pension contribution from my final pay and wants me to pay them this direct. I am assuming this is correct? If so, do I need to ask for a new final payslip and P45 as I will have already paid tax on the money they now want back? 

Albermarle

Two questions:
1) Has the usual pensions contribution /payment actually gone into your pension ( the one from August) ?
2) How were your contributions normally taken from your salary ? By salary sacrifice?; by being paid pre tax or after tax? Different employers do it different ways.

Exodi

So they're alleging they deposited money into your pension but did not deduct it from your pay. Either they've made the employee contribution without taking it from you, or as above they've misapplied a salary sacrifice arrangement. We can't tell you if this is correct without visibility of your payslip and your pension - you will need to verify if what they say is accurate or not.

If true, then we can look at sensible ways to make the repayment (do not be drawn into the daft arguments of "well it's their mistake so I shouldn't have to pay them back" you sometimes see).

ian16527

I left a company and they paid me an extra month. They contacted me before I knew, requesting the money back which I duly returned.
 
But it mucked my tax about as HMRC thought I was getting paid double so put me into the higher rate tax bracket. It took the company several tries to get it sorted including me ringing HMRC several times. 

For a couple of years after it was still following me about on my tax notifications

lilac_dawn

Exodi said:

So they're alleging they deposited money into your pension but did not deduct it from your pay. Either they've made the employee contribution without taking it from you, or as above they've misapplied a salary sacrifice arrangement. We can't tell you if this is correct without visibility of your payslip and your pension - you will need to verify if what they say is accurate or not.

If true, then we can look at sensible ways to make the repayment (do not be drawn into the daft arguments of "well it's their mistake so I shouldn't have to pay them back" you sometimes see).

I know they didn't deduct it as it shows that on my payslip. I think it is deducted then tax paid. I think they want me to pay them so they can pay it in - I don't think they have paid it but I can't see how I can check it on my pension. It's the TPS. 

lilac_dawn

ian16527 said:

I left a company and they paid me an extra month. They contacted me before I knew, requesting the money back which I duly returned.
 
But it mucked my tax about as HMRC thought I was getting paid double so put me into the higher rate tax bracket. It took the company several tries to get it sorted including me ringing HMRC several times. 

For a couple of years after it was still following me about on my tax notifications

It's not actually that much really but I don't want to have paid tax on something when I shouldn't have. 

Grumpy_chap

lilac_dawn said:

ian16527 said:

I left a company and they paid me an extra month. They contacted me before I knew, requesting the money back which I duly returned.
 
But it mucked my tax about as HMRC thought I was getting paid double so put me into the higher rate tax bracket. It took the company several tries to get it sorted including me ringing HMRC several times. 

For a couple of years after it was still following me about on my tax notifications

It's not actually that much really but I don't want to have paid tax on something when I shouldn't have. 

The company need to reverse the payroll, or run a payroll at the end of this month with all entries from last payroll reversed and then the correct entries inputted - the delta is what you then pay back correcting for tax.