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What is classed as an overnight stay?

My ex has my children 1-2 nights a week but will only have them at my house and not at his  

I pay the mortgage and all bills of which he uses whe he's at my house and uses food out my cupboards and I also have to find an alternative place to stay while he's at the house.

Would this be classed as overnight stays or not as I don't see it as him providing?

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  • born_again
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    Could you not stay at t heir house & use their food etc?
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  • maman
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    Is there a reason for this? Has he got suitable accommodation? Is it close enough, for example, to take the children to school the next day? Are the children happier with their own rooms and things around them? How did you arrive at this arrangement in the first place?


  • gwynlas
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    I would consider this as his having overnight care of them but if it is in your home using your provisions it should not count as an overnight stay for any financial benefit.

    That you allow this to take place shows your willingness to go out of your way for yur ex to maintain a relationship with your children.  Obviously it is less less disruptive for them to remain in their home rather than have an overnight stay in strange surroundings
  • kimwp
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    Why do you have to leave? Why not do something out of the house that evening, but then sleep in your own bed?
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  • marcia_
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     I would still class this as him caring but I'm not the CMS. Perhaps he wants continuity for the kids instead of bouncing them around different homes especially if his might not be 100% suitable 
  • I would count this as an overnight stay financially. All he is paying for is food and activities max.
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  • Emmia
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    edited 4 November at 6:50AM
    I would count this as an overnight stay financially. All he is paying for is food and activities max.
    He's not paying for food if the food he's using is in the OP's cupboards/fridge.

    He's also not paying for activities if he's staying in the OP's home and using the toys and games that are present there.

    Meanwhile the OP may be incurring costs to allow the other parent to look after the kids, for example being forced to eat out, book into a hotel...

    So effectively they're paying two sets of costs, whilst the ex pays none. Once for the costs in their own home (food, utilities etc when they're not there) and once for whatever costs they incur when they leave the house.

    I don't think the OP should pay anything... Perhaps the ex needs to pay for the food he feeds the kids? And/or for the OPs costs when they are having to stay elsewhere.
  • Emmia said:
    I would count this as an overnight stay financially. All he is paying for is food and activities max.
    He's not paying for food if the food he's using is in the OP's cupboards/fridge.

    He's also not paying for activities if he's staying in the OP's home and using the toys and games that are present there.

    Meanwhile the OP may be incurring costs to allow the other parent to look after the kids, for example being forced to eat out, book into a hotel...

    So effectively they're paying two sets of costs, whilst the ex pays none. Once for the costs in their own home (food, utilities etc when they're not there) and once for whatever costs they incur when they leave the house.

    I don't think the OP should pay anything... Perhaps the ex needs to pay for the food he feeds the kids? And/or for the OPs costs when they are having to stay elsewhere.
    Sorry. That should have said I wouldn’t count this as an overnight stay!
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