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  • JKenH
    JKenH Posts: 5,252 Forumite
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    A Telegraph reader asked about tax on income from solar panels and the Telegraph tax expert advised a s follows: 

    ‘I earn money from my solar panels – do I have to declare it to HMRC?’

    …. we have some specific guidance from HMRC on the tax treatment of income derived from domestic electricity generation at BIM40510 in what is referred to as “domestic microgeneration”. This guide states that where the generation tariff is received by an individual capacity, rather than as part of a business, no income tax liability will normally arise. This will typically be the case where an individual generates electricity mainly for use in their own home where the system is installed close to the home.

    The guide BIM40520 goes further by confirming an exemption from tax in the following terms: “in general, a householder who does not intend to generate an amount of electricity more than 20pc in excess of their own domestic needs is unlikely to be regarded as intending to significantly exceed the amount of electricity consumed in their own premises”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/news/earn-money-solar-panels-declare-hmrc/

    It is interesting that the article refers to “ where an individual generates electricity mainly for use in their own home where the system is installed close to the home.” I believe there has been some discussion in the past on the Ripple thread reference the “more than 20pc in excess of their own domestic needs”. This would suggest that the Ripple income would be taxable (subject to the £1,000 exemption) while your own generation is not. 

    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • NedS
    NedS Posts: 4,882 Forumite
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    JKenH said:
    A Telegraph reader asked about tax on income from solar panels and the Telegraph tax expert advised a s follows: 

    ‘I earn money from my solar panels – do I have to declare it to HMRC?’

    …. we have some specific guidance from HMRC on the tax treatment of income derived from domestic electricity generation at BIM40510 in what is referred to as “domestic microgeneration”. This guide states that where the generation tariff is received by an individual capacity, rather than as part of a business, no income tax liability will normally arise. This will typically be the case where an individual generates electricity mainly for use in their own home where the system is installed close to the home.

    The guide BIM40520 goes further by confirming an exemption from tax in the following terms: “in general, a householder who does not intend to generate an amount of electricity more than 20pc in excess of their own domestic needs is unlikely to be regarded as intending to significantly exceed the amount of electricity consumed in their own premises”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/news/earn-money-solar-panels-declare-hmrc/

    It is interesting that the article refers to “ where an individual generates electricity mainly for use in their own home where the system is installed close to the home.” I believe there has been some discussion in the past on the Ripple thread reference the “more than 20pc in excess of their own domestic needs”. This would suggest that the Ripple income would be taxable (subject to the £1,000 exemption) while your own generation is not. 

    Ripple is also clearly not "domestic microgeneration".

    Our green credentials: 12kW Samsung ASHP for heating, 7.2kWp Solar (South facing), Tesla Powerwall 3 (13.5kWh), Net exporter
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 20,198 Forumite
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    One of Ripple's last comms was to confirm that their discussions with HMRC had been unsuccessful and income would be taxable.
    Kirk Hill Co-op is currently working on tax statements for its members.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
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