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Surprise deferred pension input amount
BillyBigSteps
Posts: 2 Newbie
Hi All
I've been paying additional voluntary contributions into a company DC scheme close to the annual allowance for the last 6 years. All was good until recently when I was informed by a deferred DB pension scheme, that due to an increase in my benefits they had applied a pension input amount of over £95K for financial year 24-25. Even rolling over unused allowance from previous years this has taken me well over the annual allowance,
The tax bill will be well above £20K which seems unfair given these are a temporary increase and could reduce on future revaluations. I can see how they have arrived at the £95K number as HMRC rules use a 16x multiplier which for a potential temporary increase in benefits is a blunt tool.
I was also given no warning of the pension input so missed the chance to reduce my voluntary contributions, what options do I have to challenge the input amount (given I have seen no benefit as I'm deferred), or the HMRC multiplier (given my increase could be temporary).
I've been paying additional voluntary contributions into a company DC scheme close to the annual allowance for the last 6 years. All was good until recently when I was informed by a deferred DB pension scheme, that due to an increase in my benefits they had applied a pension input amount of over £95K for financial year 24-25. Even rolling over unused allowance from previous years this has taken me well over the annual allowance,
The tax bill will be well above £20K which seems unfair given these are a temporary increase and could reduce on future revaluations. I can see how they have arrived at the £95K number as HMRC rules use a 16x multiplier which for a potential temporary increase in benefits is a blunt tool.
I was also given no warning of the pension input so missed the chance to reduce my voluntary contributions, what options do I have to challenge the input amount (given I have seen no benefit as I'm deferred), or the HMRC multiplier (given my increase could be temporary).
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Are you sure you aren't covered by the carve out for deferred members: https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/pensions-tax-manual/ptm053910BillyBigSteps said:Hi All
I've been paying additional voluntary contributions into a company DC scheme close to the annual allowance for the last 6 years. All was good until recently when I was informed by a deferred DB pension scheme, that due to an increase in my benefits they had applied a pension input amount of over £95K for financial year 24-25. Even rolling over unused allowance from previous years this has taken me well over the annual allowance,
The tax bill will be well above £20K which seems unfair given these are a temporary increase and could reduce on future revaluations. I can see how they have arrived at the £95K number as HMRC rules use a 16x multiplier which for a potential temporary increase in benefits is a blunt tool.
I was also given no warning of the pension input so missed the chance to reduce my voluntary contributions, what options do I have to challenge the input amount (given I have seen no benefit as I'm deferred), or the HMRC multiplier (given my increase could be temporary).Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!1 -
A real terms increase in the accrued pension for a fully active DB member of £6,000 pa would be extremely unusual. How have you managed this for a 'deferred' pension...?BillyBigSteps said:Hi All
I've been paying additional voluntary contributions into a company DC scheme close to the annual allowance for the last 6 years. All was good until recently when I was informed by a deferred DB pension scheme, that due to an increase in my benefits they had applied a pension input amount of over £95K for financial year 24-25. Even rolling over unused allowance from previous years this has taken me well over the annual allowance,
The tax bill will be well above £20K which seems unfair given these are a temporary increase and could reduce on future revaluations. I can see how they have arrived at the £95K number as HMRC rules use a 16x multiplier which for a potential temporary increase in benefits is a blunt tool.
I was also given no warning of the pension input so missed the chance to reduce my voluntary contributions, what options do I have to challenge the input amount (given I have seen no benefit as I'm deferred), or the HMRC multiplier (given my increase could be temporary).2 -
One bonus due to the 2023 valuation showing a surplus, and a second bonus due to the transfer of an investment reserve.hyubh said:
A real terms increase in the accrued pension for a fully active DB member of £6,000 pa would be extremely unusual. How have you managed this for a 'deferred' pension...?BillyBigSteps said:Hi All
I've been paying additional voluntary contributions into a company DC scheme close to the annual allowance for the last 6 years. All was good until recently when I was informed by a deferred DB pension scheme, that due to an increase in my benefits they had applied a pension input amount of over £95K for financial year 24-25. Even rolling over unused allowance from previous years this has taken me well over the annual allowance,
The tax bill will be well above £20K which seems unfair given these are a temporary increase and could reduce on future revaluations. I can see how they have arrived at the £95K number as HMRC rules use a 16x multiplier which for a potential temporary increase in benefits is a blunt tool.
I was also given no warning of the pension input so missed the chance to reduce my voluntary contributions, what options do I have to challenge the input amount (given I have seen no benefit as I'm deferred), or the HMRC multiplier (given my increase could be temporary).0
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