Asking for a raise

jurgen19

Hi good morning all, hope this is the right place to ask.
I am thinking of asking for a substantial salary increase and I’m looking for some advice on how to go about this with out looking like I’m being unrealistic and unfair with my wage demands.
bit of background, I’ve been with the company 14 years and really enjoy my job and have recently been promoted to supervisor with in our workshop and received a small salary increase, but since this I have also taken on the role of on site supervisor for all our site installations around the country. I have had to undergo a site supervisor course to gain the right credentials to do so. With this role comes a lot more responsibility and stress. am I wrong to approach my boss to ask for more seeing as though I’ve had pay rise last year?

Emmia

Do you have a back up (an alternative job) if they decline?

*How do your current wages & benefits stack up against competing employers? 
*How scarce are your skills/how difficult is it for you to be replaced?

MattMattMattUK

jurgen19 said:

Hi good morning all, hope this is the right place to ask.
I am thinking of asking for a substantial salary increase and I’m looking for some advice on how to go about this with out looking like I’m being unrealistic and unfair with my wage demands.
bit of background, I’ve been with the company 14 years and really enjoy my job and have recently been promoted to supervisor with in our workshop and received a small salary increase, but since this I have also taken on the role of on site supervisor for all our site installations around the country. I have had to undergo a site supervisor course to gain the right credentials to do so. With this role comes a lot more responsibility and stress. am I wrong to approach my boss to ask for more seeing as though I’ve had pay rise last year?

It depends what you mean by "substantial" and it depends what those additional responsibilities add to the role. Is there anyone else in a similar role in the same business, or a comparable role in another company locally that you can use as a comparison?

gwynlas

You have taken on the role and attended training at the previous salary you had received an increase on.

Dependent on the normal structure within your workplace can you make a comparison with others coompleting a similar role on a higher salary?

If you do not ask you will not know but given current climate you might not wish to rock the boat by asking for a substantial increase which is likely to be turned down.

jurgen19

Thanks for your replies, I’ve researched similar roles within my industry and have seen that the pay is well above what I’m currently receiving,to be more precise £10000 to £12000 year more. I’m not going to ask for that much as I’ve not been in the role that long I was thinking maybe half of the amount and then approach them again in a year or two once I have more experience. I took on the role without really knowing everything that went with it (stupid I know) whilst I was on the training course it was actually the course provider who outlined what extra responsibilities and how serious these are taken on sites and it was him that said to me I should be paid much more for taking on this role

MattMattMattUK

gwynlas said:

You have taken on the role and attended training at the previous salary you had received an increase on.

Dependent on the normal structure within your workplace can you make a comparison with others coompleting a similar role on a higher salary?

If you do not ask you will not know but given current climate you might not wish to rock the boat by asking for a substantial increase which is likely to be turned down.

I agree with this. A good approach might be to ask for a raise based on your new responsibilities, but leave it open to your employer to suggest the amount, although have maybe 5% in your mind if they suggest a figure. However I would suggest it as part of you wanting to put in place a career path, talk about how you would like an ongoing development plan in place, more training, more skills, more responsibilities and more value to the company. It would demonstrate that you are not just after money, but also interested in staying with the company longer term (even if you are not).

kimwp

I think you could just raise that others with comparable responsibilities are earning more and you would like to see that reflected in 6 months to a year having demonstrated your capabilities in the job. Then discuss when the pay increases could happen based on performance goals.

MyRealNameToo

jurgen19 said:

Hi good morning all, hope this is the right place to ask.
I am thinking of asking for a substantial salary increase and I’m looking for some advice on how to go about this with out looking like I’m being unrealistic and unfair with my wage demands.
bit of background, I’ve been with the company 14 years and really enjoy my job and have recently been promoted to supervisor with in our workshop and received a small salary increase, but since this I have also taken on the role of on site supervisor for all our site installations around the country. I have had to undergo a site supervisor course to gain the right credentials to do so. With this role comes a lot more responsibility and stress. am I wrong to approach my boss to ask for more seeing as though I’ve had pay rise last year?

My view has always been that you gain experience and seniority within a company but you gain money by switching companies. 

I went from contact centre to lower middle management within a company over a few years, great experience but terrible money. When I left to go elsewhere the new employer took me aside and asked if I was sure I was happy with the money as they felt I could have gotten more elsewhere with my experience, I didnt tell them they'd doubled my income. 

Ultimately ask, its always good to back things up with evidence like job ads for roles that are similar to your own and what salaries they are offering... use it as backup to your claims rather than thrusting it under their nose, but make sure you're comparing apples and apples, some pay poor cash but great benefits, the total reward package can be more than someone else who's big on pay but legal minimum on pension and no bonuses etc.