We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Question on responsibility of dormer window maintenance for leasehold property

itwasntme001
itwasntme001 Posts: 1,269 Forumite
Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
edited 15 September at 6:37PM in House buying, renting & selling
I own a flat that has a number of dormer windows.  They look very much like the first photo in the below link:


The lease states that it is my responsbility as a leaseholder to maintain the windows.  I have noticed quite a lot of wear to the material surrounding the window (the outer white area of the photo in the link) - the non-opening parts when facing the window (white in colour).

The question is does this form part of the window or it is part of the dormer structure?  The material is timber, as is the windows, and both same/similar colour, hence the confusion of whether this forms part of the window or dormer.

Obviously want to know so it can be determined whos responsbility it is to repair.

TIA.
«1

Comments

  • Mark_d
    Mark_d Posts: 2,688 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    Having lived in leasehold flats for the past 25 years I'm confident that maintenance of this part of the structure would be for the management company to look after.  This is an integral part of the building that is only on the exterior.
  • itwasntme001
    itwasntme001 Posts: 1,269 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 15 September at 7:12PM
    Mark_d said:
    Having lived in leasehold flats for the past 25 years I'm confident that maintenance of this part of the structure would be for the management company to look after.  This is an integral part of the building that is only on the exterior.

    Thanks.

    so just to make sure, just looking at it externally the window is the moving part only, and the white area directly surrounding it is not part of the window and hence the management company needs to look after that part?

    The lease says that the window frames are my responsbility.  It also says that the roof is not my responsbility.  Confused where the separation is between the window part and roof part.

    Also, could the fact that the window is a dormer window mean that the management company is responsbile for the windows as well - given it forms part of the roof structure?
  • If the lease states the the windows and frames are your responsibility then it's your responsibility. 

    The roof structure is the freeholders responsibility (assuming that the lease says that) but the freeholder will arrange repairs/works and the costs will be charged back to the leaseholders, and you would pay your share of the total (again as per the terms of your lease). 

    Check your lease and go from there. 
  • itwasntme001
    itwasntme001 Posts: 1,269 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    If the lease states the the windows and frames are your responsibility then it's your responsibility. 

    The roof structure is the freeholders responsibility (assuming that the lease says that) but the freeholder will arrange repairs/works and the costs will be charged back to the leaseholders, and you would pay your share of the total (again as per the terms of your lease). 

    Check your lease and go from there. 

    That is all obvious.  But please can all answers directly answer my questions rather than stating what is already known.

    Thanks.
  • If the lease states the the windows and frames are your responsibility then it's your responsibility. 

    The roof structure is the freeholders responsibility (assuming that the lease says that) but the freeholder will arrange repairs/works and the costs will be charged back to the leaseholders, and you would pay your share of the total (again as per the terms of your lease). 

    Check your lease and go from there. 

    That is all obvious.  But please can all answers directly answer my questions rather than stating what is already known.

    Thanks.

    If it's obvious why ask the question? You wondered if a dormer window wouldn't be your responsibility despite your lease saying that the window frames are your responsibility. 

    I'm not sure what more you need to understand? 
  • Baldytyke88
    Baldytyke88 Posts: 594 Forumite
    500 Posts First Anniversary Name Dropper
    I own a flat that has a number of dormer windows.  They look very much like the first photo in the below link:


    The lease states that it is my responsbility as a leaseholder to maintain the windows.  I have noticed quite a lot of wear to the material surrounding the window (the outer white area of the photo in the link) - the non-opening parts when facing the window (white in colour).


    Is that referring to the cleaning and possible painting of the windows, not replacing anything?
  • itwasntme001
    itwasntme001 Posts: 1,269 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 15 September at 9:28PM
    I own a flat that has a number of dormer windows.  They look very much like the first photo in the below link:


    The lease states that it is my responsbility as a leaseholder to maintain the windows.  I have noticed quite a lot of wear to the material surrounding the window (the outer white area of the photo in the link) - the non-opening parts when facing the window (white in colour).


    Is that referring to the cleaning and possible painting of the windows, not replacing anything?

    It does not say replace but does say repair, amend, maintain window frames.  It also says words to the effect of the roof structure not being my responsbility to maintian etc.

    So the question I ask is for the dormer window structure (as per the photo in the link), what part is the window/ window frames and what part is the roof structure?
  • itwasntme001
    itwasntme001 Posts: 1,269 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 15 September at 9:29PM
    If the lease states the the windows and frames are your responsibility then it's your responsibility. 

    The roof structure is the freeholders responsibility (assuming that the lease says that) but the freeholder will arrange repairs/works and the costs will be charged back to the leaseholders, and you would pay your share of the total (again as per the terms of your lease). 

    Check your lease and go from there. 

    That is all obvious.  But please can all answers directly answer my questions rather than stating what is already known.

    Thanks.

    If it's obvious why ask the question? You wondered if a dormer window wouldn't be your responsibility despite your lease saying that the window frames are your responsibility. 

    I'm not sure what more you need to understand? 

    You do not understand what I am asking, that is why you seem to be confused.
  • youth_leader
    youth_leader Posts: 2,953 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    I believe you are responsible for the whole of the dormer window structure, the outside frame and the glass opening piece.  
    £216 saved 24 October 2014
  • itwasntme001
    itwasntme001 Posts: 1,269 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I believe you are responsible for the whole of the dormer window structure, the outside frame and the glass opening piece.  

    Thanks.

    But if the dormer structure is part of the roof why would it be my responsbility for the whole dormer window structure?
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.