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Online Government Tax calculator giving me wrong information (i think?)

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  • singhini
    singhini Posts: 1,242 Forumite
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    NOTE TO MYSELF:



    The three methods—Relief at Source, Net Pay, and Salary Sacrifice—are ways to contribute to your pension, and they differ mainly in how tax relief is given and how your take-home pay is affected.

    Here’s a breakdown of each:


    1. Relief at Source

    How it works:

    • You contribute from your net (after-tax) salary.

    • Your pension provider adds basic rate tax relief (currently 20%) to your contribution.

    • If you're a higher-rate or additional-rate taxpayer, you must claim extra tax relief yourself through a Self Assessment tax return or by contacting HMRC.

    Example:

    • You want £100 to go into your pension.

    • You pay £80 from your net pay.

    • HMRC adds £20 (basic rate tax relief).

    • If you're a 40% taxpayer, you can claim back an additional £20 via Self Assessment.

    Who uses it:

    • Common in personal pensions and some group personal pensions.

    • Often used when your employer doesn’t operate a Net Pay or Salary Sacrifice scheme.


    2. Net Pay Arrangement

    How it works:

    • Your pension contribution is taken before income tax is calculated (but after National Insurance).

    • You get full tax relief automatically, no matter your tax rate.

    • Your take-home pay is reduced, but so is your taxable income.

    Example:

    • You earn £2,000/month and want to contribute £100.

    • The £100 is deducted before tax is calculated, so you pay tax on £1,900.

    • No need to claim any tax relief—you already paid less tax.

    Who uses it:

    • Common in occupational pension schemes.

    • More beneficial for higher-rate taxpayers because tax relief is automatic.

    Important note:

    • Low earners (below personal allowance threshold) may not benefit from any tax relief in a net pay scheme, which is a drawback.


    3. Salary Sacrifice (also called Salary Exchange)

    How it works:

    • You agree to reduce your salary, and your employer pays that amount into your pension.

    • Since your salary is lower, you pay less tax and less National Insurance (NI).

    • Employer also saves on NI, and some pass this on to you as extra pension contributions.

    Example:

    • You earn £2,000/month and agree to sacrifice £100 into your pension.

    • Your new salary is £1,900.

    • No tax or NI is paid on the £100.

    • Employer may also contribute the NI saving (13.8%) into your pension.

    Who uses it:

    • Employers offering more efficient pension schemes.

    • Most tax-efficient for both employee and employer.

    Downsides:

    • Lower salary could affect things like:

      • Mortgage applications

      • Statutory pay (e.g., maternity/paternity)

      • Life cover based on salary


    Quick Comparison Table:

    Feature Relief at Source Net Pay Salary Sacrifice
    Contribution from Net pay Gross pay Reduced gross pay
    Tax relief Basic rate added automatically; higher rate claimed separately Full tax relief at source Full tax and NI savings
    Affects NI No No Yes (NI savings)
    Higher-rate taxpayer benefit Must claim extra manually Automatic Automatic
    Best for low earners ❌ (may miss out on tax relief) ✅ (if employer passes on NI saving)
    Admin complexity Low Low Higher (needs employer agreement)

    Which is best?

    • Salary Sacrifice: Most tax-efficient if your employer offers it.

    • Net Pay: Great for higher earners in workplace schemes.

    • Relief at Source: Works well if you're not in a company scheme, or if you're a basic-rate taxpayer.


    I have a tendency to mute most posts so if your expecting me to respond you might be waiting along time!
  • But also note that you cannot salary sacrifice below minimum wage all of which was explaines in your previous post - https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6555763/salary-sacrifice-and-staying-above-national-minimum-wage/p2
  • singhini
    singhini Posts: 1,242 Forumite
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    But also note that you cannot salary sacrifice below minimum wage all of which was explaines in your previous post - https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6555763/salary-sacrifice-and-staying-above-national-minimum-wage/p2
    Yes thanks for that.
    I also don't earn £20k (i was just playing around with the Gov website)
    I have a tendency to mute most posts so if your expecting me to respond you might be waiting along time!
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