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Including fee in loan: Monthly fee versus 'estimated total cost' confusion
zoothornrollo_2
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Hi all. Part of my mortgage is ending at end-November so I'm looking at the loans that are available for me to switch to on their portal and there's one detail on all the products that is confusing me greatly.
That is, when you add the product to the loan the monthly fee is higher, in every case, as you'd expect - makes sense.
BUT in each case the 'Estimated total cost' on the same product is LOWER if you add the fee to the loan, than if you pay it in advance? How does that work?
So in the case of the product I am looking at it says this:

That is, when you add the product to the loan the monthly fee is higher, in every case, as you'd expect - makes sense.
BUT in each case the 'Estimated total cost' on the same product is LOWER if you add the fee to the loan, than if you pay it in advance? How does that work?
So in the case of the product I am looking at it says this:

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No idea who the Lender is or what their website is calculating here, but if you have £ 99,000 mortgage, a £1,495 fee is broadly equivalent to 0.755% on the rate - therefore the no fee rate would need to be above 4.70% to make the £1,495 fee rate useful.I am a Mortgage Broker
You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.1 -
Thanks amnblog - it's YBS and I tried to speak to a mortgage adviser about this (as their mortgage customer services couldn't answer the question0 but next phone appt is sometime late next week....0
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Its lower because over the 2 year period you are only paying £9 per month towards the fee, whereas if you pay up front then that is included in the cost of the mortgage over the 2 year period - 24 payments plus 1495.zoothornrollo_2 said:Hi all. Part of my mortgage is ending at end-November so I'm looking at the loans that are available for me to switch to on their portal and there's one detail on all the products that is confusing me greatly.
That is, when you add the product to the loan the monthly fee is higher, in every case, as you'd expect - makes sense.
BUT in each case the 'Estimated total cost' on the same product is LOWER if you add the fee to the loan, than if you pay it in advance? How does that work?
So in the case of the product I am looking at it says this:
Mama read so much about the dangers of drinking alcohol and eating chocolate that she immediately gave up reading.2 -
Sorry - you have to wait a week to discuss some simple figures?zoothornrollo_2 said:Thanks amnblog - it's YBS and I tried to speak to a mortgage adviser about this (as their mortgage customer services couldn't answer the question0 but next phone appt is sometime late next week....I am a Mortgage Broker
You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.0 -
Yes indeed! Great isn't itamnblog said:
Sorry - you have to wait a week to discuss some simple figures?zoothornrollo_2 said:Thanks amnblog - it's YBS and I tried to speak to a mortgage adviser about this (as their mortgage customer services couldn't answer the question0 but next phone appt is sometime late next week....0 -
The benefits of going direct to Lenderzoothornrollo_2 said:
Yes indeed! Great isn't itamnblog said:
Sorry - you have to wait a week to discuss some simple figures?zoothornrollo_2 said:Thanks amnblog - it's YBS and I tried to speak to a mortgage adviser about this (as their mortgage customer services couldn't answer the question0 but next phone appt is sometime late next week....I am a Mortgage Broker
You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.0
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